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#1 sillydino

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 08:50 PM

Hi Guys,

So I'm cleaning this computer off for someone and after hours of scanning with norton, spybot, and adaware and after running windows update I still have some junk on here. This is the hijackthis log:

Logfile of HijackThis v1.97.7
Scan saved at 7:33:57 PM, on 6/28/2004
Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXPPS.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTsvcCDA.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\dcfssvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\MsPMSPSv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\DSentry.exe
C:\Program Files\Real\RealPlayer\RealPlay.exe
C:\Program Files\Creative\SBLive\Diagnostics\diagent.exe
C:\Program Files\Roxio\Easy CD Creator 5\DirectCD\DirectCD.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Dell\EUSW\Support.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell\Support\Alert\bin\NotifyAlert.exe
C:\documents and settings\lindsay kloster\local settings\temp\c.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\magetmgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
C:\Program Files\KODAK\Kodak EasyShare software\bin\EasyShare.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\Tovr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\VdwF0Jfu.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\cisvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\cidaemon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\cidaemon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\dllhost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdtc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\BCMSMMSG.exe
C:\caleb\HijackThis.exe
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://www.dellnet.com
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.dellnet.com
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://www.dellnet.com
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings,ProxyOverride = localhost
R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - {707E6F76-9FFB-4920-A976-EA101271BC25} - C:\Program Files\TV Media\TvmBho.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BCMSMMSG] BCMSMMSG.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [diagent] "C:\Program Files\Creative\SBLive\Diagnostics\diagent.exe" startup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [UpdReg] C:\WINDOWS\UpdReg.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DVDSentry] C:\WINDOWS\System32\DSentry.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RealTray] C:\Program Files\Real\RealPlayer\RealPlay.exe SYSTEMBOOTHIDEPLAYER
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AdaptecDirectCD] "C:\Program Files\Roxio\Easy CD Creator 5\DirectCD\DirectCD.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DwlClient] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Dell\EUSW\Support.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LMPDPSRV] C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\LMPDPSRV.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [c] C:\documents and settings\lindsay kloster\local settings\temp\c.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [2LRX2W83X2T3MQ] C:\WINDOWS\System32\Nxy2.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TV Media] C:\Program Files\TV Media\Tvm.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [9F85A64F] C:\WINDOWS\System32\qwibnozze.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Updates] wkssvr.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Update] wserv32.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Restore] scrgrd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avserve2.exe] C:\WINDOWS\avserve2.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ws4i35O] lxslv1.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Win32 USB2 Driver] smsc.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccRegVfy] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccRegVfy.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Microsoft Updates] wkssvr.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [51D23C1F] C:\WINDOWS\System32\qwibnozze.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Microsoft Update] wserv32.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Microsoft Restore] scrgrd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Win32 USB2 Driver] smsc.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [TV Media] C:\Program Files\TV Media\Tvm.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Updates] wkssvr.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Update] wserv32.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Restore] scrgrd.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [hBvsRRipS] magetmgr.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Win32 USB2 Driver] smsc.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NVMCTRAY.DLL,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SpybotSD TeaTimer] C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunOnce: [TV Media] C:\Program Files\TV Media\Tvm.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\RunOnce: [TV Media] C:\Program Files\TV Media\Tvm.exe
O4 - Startup: PowerReg Scheduler V3.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Kodak EasyShare software.lnk = C:\Program Files\KODAK\Kodak EasyShare software\bin\EasyShare.exe
O9 - Extra button: AIM (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: Real.com (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger (HKLM)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Messenger (HKLM)
O12 - Plugin for .au: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\PLUGINS\npqtplugin2.dll
O12 - Plugin for .mid: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\PLUGINS\npqtplugin2.dll
O16 - DPF: {00B71CFB-6864-4346-A978-C0A14556272C} (Checkers Class) - http://messenger.zon...ry/msgrchkr.cab
O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} - http://ak.imgfarm.co...etup1.0.0.8.exe
O16 - DPF: {24FE8666-4CCD-4D40-B09A-487A2241B508} (MSN Picture It! Print Tool) - http://photos.msn.co....cab?2,0,0,1212
O16 - DPF: {2917297F-F02B-4B9D-81DF-494B6333150B} (Minesweeper Flags Class) - http://messenger.zon...MineSweeper.cab
O16 - DPF: {8E0D4DE5-3180-4024-A327-4DFAD1796A8D} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zon...StatsClient.cab
O16 - DPF: {A662DA7E-CCB7-4743-B71A-D817F6D575DF} - http://www.autodesk....ViewerSetup.cab
O16 - DPF: {D97287B6-4018-4060-948D-54D2122FC5C3} - http://www.fastfind....03C00/setup.exe
O16 - DPF: {FF65677A-8977-48CA-916A-DFF81B037DF3} (WMService Class) - http://download.over...com/WildApp.cab


I'm particularly concerned about the "c.exe" and the "VdwF0Jfu.exe", when I try closing the latter it seems to change it's name and restart =( Terribly obnoxious! :hmmm:
Anyhow, I'm yielding to the experts on this one :whistle:

#2 sillydino

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Posted 29 June 2004 - 03:51 PM

Hello? Where did the experts go!!?!! :wave:
j/k! I'm sure people are busy =)

Edited by sillydino, 29 June 2004 - 04:00 PM.


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Posted 30 June 2004 - 01:52 PM

:unsure:

Edited by sillydino, 30 June 2004 - 05:14 PM.


#4 mjp65aa

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Posted 30 June 2004 - 05:12 PM

People are reading it because the title "worse ever," is possibly interesting. Also, I read to help learn about logs, as do others i am sure, but i am not able to help yet (with confidence). Sometimes you can get lucky and get a quick helpful reply, but the board is very busy and every one has to wait a little longer. Plus, a tougher fix usually has to wait for a longer time because there are fewer helpers with the skills to guide you through the process.

Make sure you read the FAQ http://www.spywarein...?showtopic=4817

And this (optimum Adaware settings) http://www.spywarein...showtopic=11150


GL

Edited by mjp65aa, 30 June 2004 - 05:13 PM.

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Posted 30 June 2004 - 06:27 PM

:bounce: :ugh:

#6 roger

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Posted 30 June 2004 - 09:26 PM

Looks like you've had time to fill your computer up with everything but Spybot, AdAware6.0, SpyBlaster, and a firewall. These things take time... hey it's free!

Is this fun web...? If so it needs to go for starters.

O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} - http://ak.imgfarm.co...etup1.0.0.8.exe

#7 dave38

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Posted 01 July 2004 - 05:23 PM

You have the Peper trojan, which requires special treatment to put it out of your misery!
Please download and run this uninstaller.

Click on the peperfix link, and download the program. Then go off line, and run the program. It will remove the files, leaving one orphaned entry to be cleaned up with Hijack this.

Have Hijack This fix all of the following by placing a check in the appropriate boxes and hitting fix checked. Make sure all browser and all Windows Explorer windows are closed before fixing.

R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - {707E6F76-9FFB-4920-A976-EA101271BC25} - C:\Program Files\TV Media\TvmBho.dll

O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [c] C:\documents and settings\lindsay kloster\local settings\temp\c.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [2LRX2W83X2T3MQ] C:\WINDOWS\System32\Nxy2.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TV Media] C:\Program Files\TV Media\Tvm.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [9F85A64F] C:\WINDOWS\System32\qwibnozze.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Updates] wkssvr.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Update] wserv32.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Restore] scrgrd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avserve2.exe] C:\WINDOWS\avserve2.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ws4i35O] lxslv1.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Win32 USB2 Driver] smsc.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Microsoft Updates] wkssvr.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [51D23C1F] C:\WINDOWS\System32\qwibnozze.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Microsoft Update] wserv32.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Microsoft Restore] scrgrd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Win32 USB2 Driver] smsc.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [TV Media] C:\Program Files\TV Media\Tvm.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Updates] wkssvr.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Update] wserv32.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Restore] scrgrd.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [hBvsRRipS] magetmgr.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Win32 USB2 Driver] smsc.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunOnce: [TV Media] C:\Program Files\TV Media\Tvm.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\RunOnce: [TV Media] C:\Program Files\TV Media\Tvm.exe

O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} - http://ak.imgfarm.co...etup1.0.0.8.exe

Reboot and delete

files
C:\documents and settings\lindsay kloster\local settings\temp\c.exe
wkssvr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\Nxy2.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\qwibnozze.exe
wserv32.exe
scrgrd.exe
C:\WINDOWS\avserve2.exe
smsc.exe
magetmgr.exe

folders
C:\Program Files\TV Media

These may be hidden files. See HERE for how to show hidden files.

Please post a followup Hijack this log, and say if your problems persist.
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#8 sillydino

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 03:41 PM

Ok so I ran the peper removal tool and it said that I was uninfected. Followed all the other steps and everything seems to look good now. Here is my new log:

Logfile of HijackThis v1.97.7
Scan saved at 2:37:13 PM, on 7/7/2004
Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXPPS.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\cisvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTsvcCDA.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\dcfssvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\MsPMSPSv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\BCMSMMSG.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\DSentry.exe
C:\Program Files\Roxio\Easy CD Creator 5\DirectCD\DirectCD.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Dell\EUSW\Support.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_04\bin\jusched.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
C:\Program Files\KODAK\Kodak EasyShare software\bin\EasyShare.exe
C:\Program Files\Creative\SBLive\Diagnostics\diagent.exe
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\caleb\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://www.dellnet.com
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings,ProxyOverride = localhost
R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - {707E6F76-9FFB-4920-A976-EA101271BC25} - C:\Program Files\TV Media\TvmBho.dll (file missing)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BCMSMMSG] BCMSMMSG.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [diagent] "C:\Program Files\Creative\SBLive\Diagnostics\diagent.exe" startup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [UpdReg] C:\WINDOWS\UpdReg.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DVDSentry] C:\WINDOWS\System32\DSentry.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AdaptecDirectCD] "C:\Program Files\Roxio\Easy CD Creator 5\DirectCD\DirectCD.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DwlClient] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Dell\EUSW\Support.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LMPDPSRV] C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\LMPDPSRV.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccRegVfy] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccRegVfy.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_04\bin\jusched.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NVMCTRAY.DLL,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SpybotSD TeaTimer] C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
O4 - Startup: PowerReg Scheduler V3.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Kodak EasyShare software.lnk = C:\Program Files\KODAK\Kodak EasyShare software\bin\EasyShare.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward &Links - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cac&hed Snapshot of Page - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Si&milar Pages - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate into English - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmtrans.html
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: AIM (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: Related (HKLM)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Show &Related Links (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger (HKLM)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Messenger (HKLM)
O12 - Plugin for .au: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\PLUGINS\npqtplugin2.dll
O12 - Plugin for .mid: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\PLUGINS\npqtplugin2.dll
O16 - DPF: {00B71CFB-6864-4346-A978-C0A14556272C} (Checkers Class) - http://messenger.zon...ry/msgrchkr.cab
O16 - DPF: {24FE8666-4CCD-4D40-B09A-487A2241B508} (MSN Picture It! Print Tool) - http://photos.msn.co....cab?2,0,0,1212
O16 - DPF: {2917297F-F02B-4B9D-81DF-494B6333150B} (Minesweeper Flags Class) - http://messenger.zon...MineSweeper.cab
O16 - DPF: {8E0D4DE5-3180-4024-A327-4DFAD1796A8D} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zon...StatsClient.cab
O16 - DPF: {A662DA7E-CCB7-4743-B71A-D817F6D575DF} - http://www.autodesk....ViewerSetup.cab
O16 - DPF: {D97287B6-4018-4060-948D-54D2122FC5C3} - http://www.fastfind....03C00/setup.exe
O16 - DPF: {FF65677A-8977-48CA-916A-DFF81B037DF3} - http://download.over...com/WildApp.cab


Thanks to dave for all the help. I'm assuming that the machine is clean at this point so I'm going to give it back to the owner (since I've had it here for a few weeks hehe). But feel free to let me know if there are any other problems.

Thanx again!!

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 03:42 PM

Looks like you've had time to fill your computer up with everything but Spybot, AdAware6.0, SpyBlaster, and a firewall. These things take time... hey it's free!

Is this fun web...? If so it needs to go for starters.

O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} - http://ak.imgfarm.co...etup1.0.0.8.exe

What firewalls do people suggest?

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 04:33 PM

First Download Avast Home and do a Boot time scan and windows updates also.
I would use a Router with built in firewall not any kind software firewall, Norton Internet Sercuity and Macfee Firewall seem to cause more problems than they prevent.

Edited by theshit, 07 July 2004 - 04:34 PM.


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Posted 07 July 2004 - 05:46 PM

theshit,

Running only a hardware firewall means that you are not protected at all from trojans that are inadvertently installed on the computer communicating back to their source with your personal information.... This is a REALLY BAD idea!!...

Options for good free firewalls include Kerio (hard to use, but very powerful and lean), Sygate (pretty easy to use) and ZoneAlarm (very easy to use, but bloated and poor customer service)... Any of the 3 would work... There are a number of different ones you can purchase, but there seems to be little reason to do so at this point....

Read the article in the link below: "How did I get infected" for more ideas....
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#12 sardak

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 07:31 PM

Running only a hardware firewall means that you are not protected at all from trojans that are inadvertently installed on the computer communicating back to their source with your personal information.... This is a REALLY BAD idea!!...


It does if it's properly configured, just like a software firewall. Maybe you should try knowing what you're talking about before making derogatory remarks.

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 07:45 PM

sardak,

I have not heard of any hardware firewall that provides the protection of a software firewall... If you do know of any, please post that information rather than making bald assertions without support...

In general, the best protection is a combination of a hardware firewall with a software firewall on the average users home PC... If you are talking about large networks, the question becomes much more complicated....
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Posted 07 July 2004 - 08:25 PM

Well, any decent firewall is going to give you the ability to block various ports. I believe the buzzword used is "TCP filtering" which works both ways, stopping incoming traffic to that port, as well as outgoing on that port. I agree, though, that for full coverage, a combination is generally the most robust solution.

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 11:57 PM

That would work, if you magically knew all the ports every trojan uses. :)
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Posted 08 July 2004 - 12:02 AM

Or, you could work the other way. Have it set to block by default, and allow 80, 21, etc. Much easier to add 10 ports than block 65,525.

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 08:46 AM

Software firewalls have the advantage of disallowing outgoing traffic from specific programs rather than simply blindly blocking ports. For example: if an antivirus software ‘gogetem’ uses port ‘xyz’ to connect to the internet and download updates, and the Trojan program ‘imgod’ uses this same port; blocking port ‘xyz’ would create as many problems as it has solved. By using a software firewall, you can allow outgoing connections from antivirus software ‘gogetem’ while blocking outgoing connections from Trojan program ‘imgod’. This type of blocking is not available with hardware firewalls. Both types of firewalls have advantages and it wouldn’t hurt to use both types together.

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