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#1 Irmaxx

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Posted 16 May 2004 - 07:26 AM

Hi,

That's a surprise! A new location for SWI Forums!
I wasn't aware of the upcoming change, and when I couldn'd add a reply to my 'own' topic
I finally found out about this location! I had to register under a new alias, so instead of
Irmax it's now Irmaxx!

Well... enough about that!

I would like to get back to my little problem, the above topic, which can be found at
the 'old' location: Microsoft Outlook Express v6.

A recap:
- all the nessacery (registry)back-ups, restore points and screenshot of various settings have been made;
- the registry key has been 'tweaked': DWORD IsInstalled = 0

The question:
- how do I (re)install IEv6?

Possibly a stupid question, but I really do not have a clue!
...I R M A X .
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#2 Guitar Man

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Posted 17 May 2004 - 12:03 PM

Hi Irmax. Glad to see you've found new work ! (and the new SWI location)

Now back to your situation...

So I have to ask: “Is there no other way to tackle this problem of mine?"

No. Not that I know of, at least. (Unless you want to do a clean install of your OS. But that's the last resort.) Installing IE is the easiest part.

If you want another (very condensed) confirmation of how relatively easy it is, then read this PCMag tip (link to article) It mentions that same key I was referring to earlier.

- I modify the Registry key and I won’t get an error message from the installation setup of IEv6? (Yes/No) No. Not if you do the tweak to avoid that message first.
- I modify the Registry key, IEv6 and OEv6 will still be installed and the new version is an install over
...the existing one? (Yes/No) Yes.
- Does the new install of IEv6 imply that OEv6 will be installed as well? (Yes/No) Yes. OE is tied into IE by default.
- Does Windows Update recognize by altering the Registry key, that my system ‘needs’ IEv6
...(and for that matter) OEv6? (Yes/No) Yes.
- Are all of the preferences of IEv6 and OEv6 gone after an install? (Yes/No) YES !
- Do I have to backup my Identities folder with my e-mails? (Yes/No) Yes. It's not so much the Identities, because you can reinstall those easily. It's your local folders that you've created, and the messages saved to those that need to get backed up to floppy/CD or another partition. If your email address is web-based (Hotmail, Yahoo, AOL), they're installed quite fast too, if you have your ISP server protocols (ICMP, SMTP), account name and password jotted down somewhere.
- Is this a ‘harmless’ routine, or are there certain risks involved, if so which ones? (Yes/No) Perfectly harmless. It's been done countless times, by going to that very KB Article !


I’m afraid to loose my Internet connection altogether!

Never. The Network Connections folder is there for that.

Just a tip, but if you're like me, you may have a ton of URLs in your Favorites folder. You will want to MOVE that folder to another partition or media (floppy, CD-R or CD/RW). Or repopulate them from scratch. Your choice.

Summary: the longest part of this exercise will involve re-installing any missing Windows Updates. That's where you re-download/re-install IE !!!

Edited by Guitar Man, 17 May 2004 - 12:06 PM.

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#3 Irmaxx

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Posted 18 May 2004 - 02:41 PM

Hi Guitar Man,

Glad you're back, missed you! :rolleyes: B)

Questions:
- do I tweak the Registry key by changing the DWORD IsInstalled from 1 to 0?
- Then... close the Registry and reboot the system?
- Then... startup IE and go to the Windows Update-site and search for new updates?

Actions done:
- did tweak the Registry key by changing the DWORD IsInstalled from 1 to 0!
- Then... closed the Registry and did not reboot the system!
- Then... startup IE and go to the Windows Update-site and search for new updates.
..No new updates found!

Again: how does this work, re-installing IEv6? I still don't get it! Too dense, maybe?! :huh:
...I R M A X .
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Posted 18 May 2004 - 03:39 PM

Here is a link to IE6 SP-1.
http://www.microsoft...sp1/default.asp

If you download it over your current version, it should replace any missing files. You will then need to to go to the update page to check if you need any.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight -- it's the size of the fight in the dog."

#5 Irmaxx

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Posted 19 May 2004 - 02:01 PM

Hi Wreck & Guitar Man,

I already found that link and dowloaded it several days ago, but I didn't dare to use it!

I still have a question or two:
- if I want to reinstall ONLY IEv6, then I should tweak the following key:
....HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\
......{89820200-ECBD-11cf-8B85-00AA005B4383}

- if I want to reinstall ONLY OEv6, then I should tweak the following key:
....HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\
......{44BBA840-CC51-11CF-AAFA-00AA00B6015C}


What should I tweak if I want to reinstall BOTH, which by the way does happen if I install IEv6?
Must I tweak both keys or just only the one for IEv6?

Edited by Irmaxx, 19 May 2004 - 02:02 PM.

...I R M A X .
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Posted 19 May 2004 - 03:35 PM

Reinstalling IE6 over your current situation IS NOT going to harm you in any way!

I don't know if you ever tried this, but you should be able do a simple repair of IE6 ( and accomplish the same thing) by simply:

1) Go to "Control Panel"
2) Click on "Add/Remove Programs
3) Navigate to "Microsoft IE6"
4) Now click "Add/Remove" ( Don't worry, by clicking this you won't remove anything)
5) You will now have the option to "repair" or "uninstall"
6) Choose "REPAIR"
7) Follow prompts

** Outlook Express is a part of IE, tweak them both if you like, it doesn't matter. The reinstall or repair should fix any problems with either or both.

Edited by wreck, 19 May 2004 - 03:50 PM.

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#7 Irmaxx

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Posted 20 May 2004 - 06:36 AM

Hi Wreck,

Thanks again for responding to my 'call'! I really appreciate it!

Your step-by-step explanation is for sure clear enough, but...
- in the Control Panel » Add/Remove Programs I do not have an entry called:
..Microsoft IE6 but Internet Explorer Q831167;
- when I click on the button Change/Remove, it only asks me:
....This will remove Q831167 and restore the last configuration?
....Do you want to remove Q831167?
....YES..or..NO

- the same thing happens when I try to 'repair' Outlook Express Q837009!

Is this the right reponse? Is this OK?
BTW... I haven't yet tweaked one or both Registry keys. I that a/the problem?

So... now what?
...I R M A X .
.The LowLands

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Posted 20 May 2004 - 09:17 AM

Tweak both of the registry entries. What you are doing here is merely allowing the IE and OE to be changed. Sometimes XP will not allow you to uninstall or alter them without doing this.
Forget about the control panel fix and download the IE6 SP-1 straight from the microsoft webpage. Again, don't be afraid -- it can't hurt you. Outlook Express is a part of Internet Explorer. By re-installing IE over you current version, hopefully it will restore your original settings and will fix your OE access problem.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight -- it's the size of the fight in the dog."

#9 Irmaxx

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Posted 20 May 2004 - 10:36 AM

Here I am again!

I did all of the above:
- tweaked both registry keys;
- downloaded the IE6 SP-1 straight from the Microsoft webpage;
- ran the file IE6setup.exe.

It tried to download Internet Explorer, but got stuck round about 3745 kB out of 9934 kB.
It didn't move forward for a very long time... so finally I interrupted the setup and made
a shortcut as it requested from me.

Now what?

If I tweak the registry keys, should I first reboot before trying to reinstall IEv6?
Can I reboot even now I have tried to install IEv6 and have created a shortcut?
...I R M A X .
.The LowLands

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Posted 20 May 2004 - 12:09 PM

I would reboot and retry the download.


ADDENDUM:
If you reboot and download again and fail, please re-state your exact status of your machine again and re-state your exact problem with Outlook express. I.E.:
Does your IE6 work properly (can you surf the web)?
What does and doesn't work in Outlook Express?

Edited by wreck, 20 May 2004 - 12:42 PM.

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#11 Irmaxx

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Posted 21 May 2004 - 07:18 AM

Well… I’ve finally tried your suggestion, Wreck!

“… and these are the results of the people of The Netherlands:”
1) I backed-up the registry;
2) made a restore Point;
3) zipped my OE e-mail folder;
4) tweaked both registry keys;
5) rebooted my system;
6) after the reboot, Windows asked me if I wanted to keep my personal preferences
…..concerning IE and OE? (I clicked YES)
7) it started up with a notification that IE and OE weren’t installed. If I wanted to?
8) clicked OK;
9) it tried to install both IE and OE, but tragically failed!
…..It couldn’t install due to an error concerning XP logo certification, or something?

So now I’m back in business, only nothing has changed! :wacko:
The install failed and everything is as it was!

Does your IE6 work properly (can you surf the web)?

YES. As I stated before (maybe not clearly enough) IEv6 works fine, as far as I can tell!

What does and doesn't work in Outlook Express?

Well, I'll try to explain again:
Suppose I'm visiting a certain site and at one point I want to put a question (or report a bug) to a developer.
Normally there's a link on such a site, which can look like: support@developer.com.
When I click on such a link, my email client doesn't respond! It doesn't open a New Mail!

That's my problem! B)
...I R M A X .
.The LowLands

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Posted 21 May 2004 - 09:15 AM

Well, I am at a loss now to help you with your inability to get your download of IE6 to take. Sometimes, you will get much better results to make sure you close ALL other running programs when you try a major install. Hopefully, someone else here who is more adept in this will jump in and help out. Good Luck!
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight -- it's the size of the fight in the dog."

#13 Irmaxx

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Posted 22 May 2004 - 06:13 AM

To Wreck and Guitar Man,
(and to anyone to whom this may concerns)

You won't believe this, but the following just happened:
yesterday (friday 21 of may) I bought - as I frequently do - a PC magazin called Computer Easy.
I started to read and came across this article Help! Outlook is loosing it! (p.30, my best translation).
There it was, someone else had installed another e-mailclient program and now THAT program
was starting-up every time he clicked on a e-mailadress, instead of OEv6!

They said to go to OE, click on Tools » Options and check the boxes which make OE
the default E-mailclient and default Newsgroup.
And if that didn't help than do the following:
1) click on Start;
2) click on Run...;
3) type the command: "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /reg (including the quotation marks!).


And.... IT HELPED! It really works!! :rolleyes: :D :lol:

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In conjunction, these File Associations are imperative(?), if you're using OEv6:
(1) URL:MailTo-Protocol
(2) URL:News-Protocol

They should be set by default, like:
(1) "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /mailurl:%1
(2) "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /newsurl:%1


This happens when the above command (with the parameter /reg) is used!

And not like:
(1) rundll32.exe url.dll,MailToProtocolHandler %l
(2) rundll32.exe url.dll,NewsProtocolHandler %l

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Guys, thanx a lot for your patience & expertise AND for not giving up so easily!
I've read other posts and you're doing great things here! B)

Thanx and keep up the good work!

Edited by Irmaxx, 22 May 2004 - 06:58 AM.

...I R M A X .
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Posted 22 May 2004 - 08:45 AM

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Way to go!!
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#15 Guitar Man

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Posted 24 May 2004 - 09:12 AM

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Glad to see your situation is back to normal !
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