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#1 Muriel

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 10:29 AM

Hey Mike,
It was suggested I mention this here:

I know GoogleBot needs to hang around the sight so that SWI shows up on searches, but last night, the Index Board showed GoogleBot "reviewing member profile."

Sorry, but that creeps me out. Should it be a concern?

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 07:56 PM

Edit:
The below is a dramaticization of events. Do not take seriously unless you happen to work for the FOX network


Crap! I don't know anymore. I just got 3 private messages from Googlebot saying "You sux0r, stop chatting with hotbot!" plus some stuff I can't post here Also, contained various ads that varied from herbal remedies and/or penis enlargement pills as well as "Make your own college diploma in three minutes!!"

I have alerted the moderation and have asked them to bump Googlebot's warn meter, also sent a PM stating its actions are frowned upon. Not to mention its rather revealing avatar.... I will need to file a lawsuit demaning a lifelong supply of cheesecakes from google for reparations.


But in actuality the googlebot isn't reviewing anyone's profile. it's just treating that page link like any other page and takes a snapshot like any plain ol' page.

Or maybe not...

Edited by Archon_Wing, 27 May 2004 - 10:28 PM.

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 08:11 PM

Sounds as though maybe we have a member who has named himself Googlebot. Checking now..

Nope, no such member.

I will look into the Bot privileges. Didn't know they could send PMs.

Checked - they are not allowed to send email or PMs (supposedly).
They are allowed to view profiles and member lists.

Edited by cnm, 27 May 2004 - 08:19 PM.

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#4 Muriel

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 08:24 PM

I could go for the cheesecake reparations, but only if coffee (good coffee) is included, heh!

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 08:24 PM

Now the online list shows

GoogleBot ( 64.68.82.199 ) Contacting member via email


This has got to be a hack of some sort.

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 08:30 PM

Just remembered, GoogleBot was marked as using personal messenger another time, as well.

Cnm, are you thinking this could be linked somehow to the attacks on the websites recently, like a scout?

I don't know the fine details of how those attacks were carried out, but say a false bot such as this gathered info on the site(s) and all the folks that use them, and then simulated all 15,000 members (or however many there are now) trying to gain access all at once. Couldn't that account for the incredible numbers on the bandwidth and the isolated attacks on the domain? Like using the site and its users against it in a way... I dunno

Edited by Muriel, 27 May 2004 - 08:45 PM.


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Posted 27 May 2004 - 08:43 PM

The IP address that Googlebot is using is one of the Google IPs. I now think maybe Google has been hacked. I will send Google an email, which most likely they will pay no attention to. webmaster@google.com

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 08:55 PM

Email sent

Hi -

Is it possible that GoogleBot has been hacked?
Please see http://www.spywarein...indpost&p=11735 and following.

GoogleBot sending abusive PMs?  Our board permissions don't permit bots to send PMs, so this is strange.  And of course abuse is unlike Google.

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#9 smckillop

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 08:56 PM

I'm not positive but I've had some experience with "Googlebot" using another forum (Snitz) based on ASP. The Googlebot essentially visited the forum and attempted to click every possible link on every possible page.

On Snitz, those entries were logged using titles from the pages. If I go into the Member List, Click on CNM, and then Click on Email, a form is displayed on a page... You may simply be seeing the Googlebot at this point on the forum.

I'm just throwing out a possibility...

This could also explain why the Googlebot shows "Viewing User Profile" as it may view every user profile on the forum at some point (clicking a user's link).

It doesn't explain the PM's that Archon_Wing received but there may be some validity to the Googlebot's "browsing".

I have attached a screenshot of Googlebot using Personal Messenger.... I would be curious as to what a member shows when sending a PM...

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Edited by smckillop, 27 May 2004 - 09:02 PM.

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 09:05 PM

I would be curious as to what a member shows when sending a PM...

After a short delay I found the answer to the PM Question

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 09:09 PM

Yes, bot browsing is legitimate and welcome. And as you suggest, the "Sending email" etc may be an artefact of browsing the profiles.

The abusive PM to Archon_Wing is the only thing I'm concerned about.

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 10:26 PM

Whoops sorry...that was just a joke. But I do swear googlebot is jealous of me talking to hotbot though.

... desperate for good cheesecake.

The truth is, a bot has no brain. It checks out all links it can, just as it searches the subpages of any website. I do not consider it mallicous

Although, if you search google for Archon_Wing, it shows it viewing my profile. ---

This would have never happened if the smilies were here.

Edited by Archon_Wing, 27 May 2004 - 10:26 PM.

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 10:44 PM

This would have never happened if the smilies were here.

Agreed. Wish Mike would get around to installing them.

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#14 Muriel

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 11:14 PM

Hmmm, still odd though.

Cnm, so is the idea I mentioned above about the website attacks completely far fetched, or would something similar be possible. From what I've read about the attacks, it's seems to be generally known what happened, but no fine details as far as the method used to bring it about.

I am (and will be) full of quirky questions. Google being hacked, eh? I suppose someone could catch Googlebot and rewrite it to do their bidding, could give a whole new meaning to redirecting ploys.

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Posted 27 May 2004 - 11:27 PM

No, Archon_Wing was joking. I imagine Google has their bot pretty well protected.

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Posted 28 May 2004 - 06:18 PM

Without forgetting CNM, that the i.p. address can be spoofed from a list.

Again, that e-mail to Google should bring back some interesting information. Would you mind posting it once you receive a response? ( if they will respond )


edit :


is it possible to Lure googlebot to another site? i'd like to lure him to mine.. cause i had read in my invision stuff a warning about googlebot, haha

i think i took like 10 steps to block it, and now im trying to get it back.. can it be lured? or like, any way of getting it to a site ?

Edited by Mr. Swenk, 28 May 2004 - 06:52 PM.

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 02:29 PM

There is a place on Google's website where you can submit your site's URL.

http://www.google.com/addurl.html

Hope that helps.
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