Lawsuits or class action?
Posted 19 May 2004 - 05:04 AM
( c:/searchpage.html#1507 ). Perhaps these companies/parasites should be court ordered to pay for a computer tech (By The Hour) to repair my computer! The damage can be considerable. I've lost any & all sound, at one point my internet conectivity.
This latest hijacker has my Internet Explorer jumping up on startup, my home & search captive, and changes my registry right back inspite of running several homepage blocks, registry locks, spysweeper, adaware, norton, spybot etc...
If someone did this kind of damage to my car, my house, or any other personal property after a beat down there would certainly be other consequences as well. I can't use MY computer like this and if I have to mess with registries and more and my computer gets destroyed in the process of removing this burglar they should be made liable for damages. If someone showed up and started changing the landscape of your home around to the way they wanted it, or walked by your automobile & suddenly popped the hood and started working on it without your permission we'd flip out.
Posted 19 May 2004 - 07:21 AM
Posted 19 May 2004 - 01:37 PM
if a law firm could be found to take the case.
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Posted 19 May 2004 - 10:37 PM
I am a trial lawyer at a large firm in the state of Arizona. I'm not particularly tech-savvy, but I am fairly knowledgeable and well-versed in how the law is evolving in response to Internet-based issues.
My computer has been hijacked by a number of different companies, and I am sick and tired of trying to figure out which anti-spyware software to buy, how to install it, who to call, etc., etc., etc. Instead, I am now considering invoking the power of our courts to deal with this problem once and for all, under the theory that when a private company uses deceptive technology to manipulate my personal computer, such conduct constitutes a trespass to chattels under Arizona law. (Don't be misled by the word "theory". This legal doctrine has been successfully used in cyberlaw cases over the past few years, as many of you already know).
A few weeks ago, I sent off a scathing cease-and-desist letter to the British company behind the infamous "lop.com" technology, and it actually worked: the company sent me specific instructions on how to purge its software from my computer. I just sent off another 2 cease-and-desist letters, but I don't know and frankly doubt that they will respond. I may have to actually file suit against the bastards.
Is there anyone out there interested in helping me doing this? I'm not making a federal case out of it. My intention is to file suit in one of our state's local justice courts, and demand damages of a couple thousand dollars only. They might be able to ignore emailed complaints and bad publicity, but they won't ignore a judgment against them of $5,000, I assure you.
If you live in Arizona and have been affected by the same defendants, we can even discuss the possibility of joining any action I file as a plaintiff.
Whaddya think, folks?
Posted 20 May 2004 - 06:48 AM
Posted 20 May 2004 - 08:33 PM
Posted 21 May 2004 - 12:58 AM
In deed, reversing the crap they are trying to infect my computer with times two. My atom bomb in exchange for their scud missle, crippeling their entire system. Sure they'd move on but if we all had the program they'd be dancing in a field of land mines. O.K. if I'm getting medievil here it's cuz I'm pretty ticked. All my browsers are wounded, (IE, Mozilla, Aol), my sound is gone, Nvidea casualties of war, and with limping browsers I can't do updates or downloads. My desktop is covered with every Spy program out there, demos/trials & full versions. Nortons' to worried about updating password manager & is napping on the job I guess. All the other spyware programs can delete the attackers registry changes etc...but none have located the source.
So unless someone is working on this software program I mentioned than lawsuits is about all we have. Link this crap to the American porn companies mostly responsible and sue the bejesus out of em! Shove their gambling porn right down their bloody neck stumps!
Posted 24 May 2004 - 02:21 AM
Posted 24 May 2004 - 03:28 PM
I don't want to install a program that has spyware on it, and I think nobody else has to. They shouldn't need to sneak stuff in just to get people to install their adware.
Posted 24 May 2004 - 09:26 PM
Posted 25 May 2004 - 09:03 AM
Posted 25 May 2004 - 01:06 PM
If they did, there's a possiblity they might find they're not. and stop using these companies.
I read somewhere that Gator oops sorry Claria I think it was, actually placed ads over their own clients.
Talk about greed.
Posted 25 May 2004 - 01:16 PM
As far as "scurrying off," as mentioned earlier, remember that there are other businesses (as in "established" heath care providers) that reap what they can as far as profits go for as long a duration as they can, and then simply "re-establish" their company under another guise. As far as location, often, they don't even bother leaving town, much less the country.
Breitel, your intention of nailing them through the local justice courts sounds like an effective possibility. I lived in Arizona off and on for many years. Perhaps, you could team up with the AG's office for this?
Also, some of those companies contract out to smaller companies to write and handle the advertising arrangements for them, as a cover. You could also pursue action against companies (those worried about their integrity) that host those malicious ads (some aren't even aware of it, at first--Yahoo's UK site was taken over by a malicious ad for Napster the other night, which may have been fixed by now).
There's also the servers that provide some of these self-serving companies their access to their web business. A notification of their "assistance" in these immoral, yet presently legal(technically speaking) acts might help cripple these companies in some way. Maybe these ideas are possibilities?
As for your idea Max 1, I know you're angry. We all are, otherwise we wouldn't be here trying to do something about it. Even though we'd all love someone to drop a massive Bit-Bomb on the turds that write this crapware to begin with, to do so wouldn't make us any different than them (ah, such a cliche).
Much as it might grate, defending ourselves against them with the tools provided here and elsewhere, and pursuing some sort of legal action, is probably the best method.
I just remembered something Mike mentioned on the main page about checking with Congress about something similiar to this, I think. I'll check it out, and if helpful, add a link to it here.
Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:22 AM
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