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Poll: What software is the best compliment to an AV (other than another second opinion AV)? (40 member(s) have cast votes)

What software is the best compliment to an AV (other than another second opinion AV)?

  1. Ewido (6 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  2. A Squared (6 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  3. TDS-3 (12 votes [30.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  4. Trojan Hunter (12 votes [30.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  5. Other, List name and/or website (NO AV's here!) (4 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

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#1 KinG

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Posted 24 August 2004 - 03:15 PM

I'm looking for a compliment to buy or download.

Edited by KinG, 24 August 2004 - 03:17 PM.


#2 Guest_Joey1_*

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Posted 24 August 2004 - 03:29 PM

Ewido is Ok. Has a huge database with frequent updates. Still has a few bugs though. A squared is good too. Also has frequent updates and a decent-sized database. Trojan hunter is more lightweight than TDS-3, but has a smaller database. TDS-4 should be pretty good.

#3 KinG

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Posted 24 August 2004 - 05:02 PM

Anybody else?

#4 decay

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Posted 25 August 2004 - 07:01 AM

im looking for one myself, with a real-time scanner preferably. TDS-3 is an excellent on-demand scanner

#5 Untouchable J

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Posted 25 August 2004 - 10:12 AM

TDS-3 and Trojanhunter are the 2 best anti-trojan programs IMO. I havent used TDS-3 but I've read reports about their extensive ruleset, powerful scanning engine, and few fp's. Trojanhunter(which I use) is just as powerful as TDS-3 but more user-friendly. Trojanhunter also comes with Trojanguard which is a real-time scanner which stops and removes trojans from installing or activating on your computer. TH havent failed me yet. I should also add both have new versions coming out soon (TDS-4 and Trojanhunter 4.0). Trojanhunter 4.0 RC1 is already out for testing.

Hope this helps!

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#6 lonewolf

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 10:34 PM

I like Boclean. You just install and it does its job, very easy for newbies and it works very well. I really like the idea of preventing trojans from ever getting on your system, rather than trying to remove it once its on your computer and probably done its job. Prevention is what Boclean is all about.

Of course i also really like TDS-3 and if you purchase TDS-3 now, you will be able to upgrade to TDS-4 for free. I have also heard Diamondcs will be coming out with some kind of free trojan scanner soon.

#7 decay

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Posted 27 August 2004 - 04:23 AM

TDS is an excellent on-demand scanner, whilst TrojanHunter offers a premier real time trojan application. both are installed on my pc

#8 Trilobite

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Posted 27 August 2004 - 09:31 AM

How about AdAware or Spybot :question:
How about firewalls :question:
How about Windows updates :question:
How about common sense :question:

If I'm limited to only two choices, then I chose to stay off of the network. :alien:

#9 Untouchable J

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Posted 27 August 2004 - 04:06 PM

have also heard Diamondcs will be coming out with some kind of free trojan scanner soon.


I cant wait :D

Edited by Jrshaw62, 27 August 2004 - 04:07 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2004 - 04:15 PM

have also heard Diamondcs will be coming out with some kind of free trojan scanner soon.


I cant wait :D

Me neither. It's about time someone made another free trojan scanner.

#11 decay

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 03:39 PM

concerning TDS3. how can i enable the real-time scanner that comes with the registered version?

#12 decay

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 03:41 PM

oops double post :(

Edited by decay, 28 August 2004 - 03:41 PM.


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Posted 28 August 2004 - 03:42 PM

There should be something in the configuration menu....

#14 decay

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 04:48 PM

nope cant see it :((

#15 lonewolf

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 09:55 PM

Here's a good thread on enabling TDS-3's execution protection. http://www.wildersse...ead.php?t=46041

#16 decay

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 06:34 AM

thanks

#17 dowen

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 01:05 PM

I'm personally not very fond of a2 because I've seen quite a few occassions in which it picks up false positives and has caused some problems. I'm not sure if it has improved now.

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Posted 11 September 2004 - 11:53 AM

I currently use Ewido as my main anti-trojan scanner with A2 as a backup. Ewido updates almost daily. A2 doesn't seem to update as often and as Dowen pointed out it has had quite a few f/p's. In my opinion, Emsisoft has been alot faster on releasing fixes for these f/p's than other vendors. I am looking forward to version 2 of A2. I like both of these programs alot and think that they both have a good future ahead of them.

#19 AntiSpam

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Posted 16 October 2004 - 03:27 PM

What will you all recommend if I onyl want one freeware anti-trojan?I won't mind having Ewido though.

Off topic question.
Should I use AntiVir PE or AVG Free with an Anti-Trojan?

#20 lonewolf

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Posted 17 October 2004 - 03:15 PM

I would choose Ewido over A2, but why not use both?

As for which AV, I know many around here would probably say AVG, but I myself prefer Antivir. It wouldn't hurt to use both of these AVs also. One as a backup and one as your main. But if your using KAV why would you want either? Unless your just looking for a backup AV?

Edited by lonewolf, 17 October 2004 - 03:17 PM.


#21 Ad Infinitum

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 07:44 AM

I don't understand the point of installing two antivirus programs - one for realtime scanning and the other for on-demand.Even though each program have its own advantages,which one is better off worth installing?You should know that nothing is perfect.

You can email me if you wish to ask questions on what programs you'll like to have best performance or best detection rate.Why not refer to Tribolite's topic on AntiVirus?You can get a good start there.

#22 Guest_Joey1_*

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 02:08 PM

One may find what the other misses, as no security product is perfect.
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#23 robin850

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 06:56 AM

the latest TrojanHunter works quite well and uses few resources. i hope a good free trojan removal tool comes out soon.
my clients are very happy with AVG(free), Spybot S&D, AdAwareSE. GiantAntiSpyware has some very good features that a good trojan tool would complete.

#24 Alya

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Posted 02 November 2004 - 03:33 PM

Good antivirus should be able to detect trojans. You don't need additional Trojan remover if you have good AV.

Compliment to AV should be:
1. Firewall (I recommend Outpost)
2. Spyware/adware remover (I recommend PestPatrol)
3. File Integrity Checker (I'm still trying to find the best one)
4. +/- Process Guard

#25 lonewolf

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 02:22 PM

Good antivirus should be able to detect trojans. You don't need additional Trojan remover if you have good AV.

Compliment to AV should be:
1. Firewall (I recommend Outpost)
2. Spyware/adware remover (I recommend PestPatrol)
3. File Integrity Checker (I'm still trying to find the best one)
4. +/- Process Guard

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Yes a good AV will detect some trojans, but not all. By using a good anti-trojan as well as your AV your just covering more ground, and quite a bit in some cases.

Also most ATs will detect a lot more than just trojans, some things you would never find with your AV.

Your recommending Pest Patrol as the best spyware/adware remover? How much experience do you have with the program? I've had more false positives with Pest Patrol than any other anti-spyware program I have ever had. While Pest Patrol doesn't have too bad of a detection rate, the false positive issue is just too much of a problem to make the program something I would ever recommend to anyone.

Some good free file checker programs are FingerPrint http://www.2brightsp...eeware-hub.html and FileChecker http://www.javacools...ilechecker.html Though perhaps not the best of the best, both are free and useful programs.

Edited by lonewolf, 06 November 2004 - 02:24 PM.


#26 Alya

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 11:46 PM

AV will detect some trojans, but not all. some things you would never find with your AV

That's a bad antivirus. I said "good antivirus" :)

PestPatrol is the only spyware/adware prog I use. I tried Ad-aware, Spybot, Bulletproof Spyware & Adware Remover and Webroot spyware remover in the past. You just have to know what you are doing with PestPatrol, that's all.

Edited by Alya, 06 November 2004 - 11:49 PM.


#27 lonewolf

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Posted 07 November 2004 - 12:26 PM

AV will detect some trojans, but not all. some things you would never find with your AV

That's a bad antivirus. I said "good antivirus" :)

PestPatrol is the only spyware/adware prog I use. I tried Ad-aware, Spybot, Bulletproof Spyware & Adware Remover and Webroot spyware remover in the past. You just have to know what you are doing with PestPatrol, that's all.

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Even the best AV on the planet won't detect every trojan. The best AVs do a good job of detecting quite a few trojans, I'll agree with you there, but even so they will not detect them all, and the less common trojans often just won't be detected at all. By using a good AT such as TDS-3 you'll have a much better chance of catching the majority of trojans.

Or you could go the free route and use A2 and Ewido. These two make a great anti-trojan team allowing you to catch many more trojans (and other malware) than you would with just your AV.

I agree you do need to know what your doing with Pest Patrol, and that's part of the reason why I would never rate it as the top spyware remover. Pest Patrol is a helpful program in the right hands, but it's FP problem makes it just a mediocre spyware remover at best.

If someone just went ahead and deleted everything Pest Patrol found, they could be looking at a reformat in some cases. It simply just has too many FPs to make it a safe product for the average user.

If Pest Patrol is the only spyware remover your using I would suggest you get Spybot and Ad-aware again they will detect some things Pest Patrol can't, so your only helping yourself by having at least a few different spyware scanners.

Layering your security by using mutiple scanners is the smartest thing you can do. That way your covered for those days when things just aren't going your way. Good luck. :)

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Posted 07 November 2004 - 01:09 PM

http://spywarewarrio...nti-spyware.htm

Helpful if you're trying out new anti-spyware programs. ;)

#29 ErikAlbert

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Posted 22 November 2004 - 11:06 PM

Wouldn't it be smarter to create one or more pinned posts, where we mention all the anti-malware programs with a good reputation.
Firewalls, Housecalls, AntiVirus, AntiTrojan, etc. etc. etc. divided in free and commercials ones.

New members can use these pinned posts to make their own collection.
Otherwise new members will ask for the best anti-malware softwares over and over again and each time we will have the same discussions about these differences over and over again.

Are small differences between softwares so important ?
As far as I noticed none of these anti-malware softwares are perfect so it really doesn't matter which anti-malware programs you use.
We just mention the good ones and let members make their personal choice.

False Positives can be reported to the manufacturer and can be solved in new releases. If we don't report them they will never disappear.

Well it's just an idea.
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#30 lonewolf

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 08:28 PM

Sounds like a good idea ErikAlbert to have one (or more) pinned post(s) with all of this info in one place, and whenever someone asks about the programs we can just direct them to it. I may just get another year out of my keyboard that way. :D

Edited by lonewolf, 23 November 2004 - 08:31 PM.


#31 TopperID

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Posted 08 December 2004 - 05:53 PM

A2 has recently been through some big improvements and now has a much enlarged signature base. For a free product it is well worth having as a back-up scanner.

If you want good AV/AT real-time coverage, but only want to buy one product, one solution would be AntiVir for your AV and either Ewido or BOClean as your AT. The reasoning behind this is that AntiVir is probably better than AVG or Avast at detecting viruses and worms, but is not quite so effective at intercepting trojans - so it would be complemented nicely by your resident AT .

Another possibility is to have a top of the range AV, like Kaspersky, which has good trojan finding abilities. This would cost a bit more so you could supplement it with the free versions of A2 and Ewido - which would not be resident, you require the paid version for that! (But with kaspersky you may not need a resident AT).

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 09:07 PM

Best compliment to an AV program?

..."My but you are doing a terrific job of keeping my PC free of viruses!"

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