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[Hydroponic Garden]

I'm new here so I've yet to read all the products others have mentioned, but a product called Ghost Surf Pro which I use must be taken a look at for those who find privacy on the net an issue.
You are being watched! ISPs are monitoring your behavior. Other users of your computer are snooping through your surfing history. Companies are stealing your personal information and using it to create a profile of you. Hackers can watch everything that leaves your computer. Only one software title can defend you from all of these violations of your personal information - GhostSurf Pro.

Feature Highlights

Allows you to surf anonymously, so that web sites can't identify you.
Clears all traces of your surfing from your computer, thwarting snoops.
Detects and eliminates spyware from your computer.
Blocks ads that annoy you and waste your time.
Allows you to control and view every bit of data you are sending to the web.
The files you open and sites you visit are known by you and you alone.
Uses its Blast Transfer technology to speed up your anonymous connection.
Cookies you don't want are blocked before they reach you.
Conforms to government standards for secure data destruction.
Includes a privacy test so that you can be sure that your privacy is secure.

visit http://www.tenebril.com/products/

No, I don't work for Tenebril but I figure any useful info is worth it.


-Hydroponic Garden

[Gwyrox732]

I haven't been to that website nor checked out that product, simply on the grounds that it sounds like they are using scare tactics to lure users.

[Hydroponic Garden]

Scare Tatics? Isn't that why you're here obsessing about spyware.... and getting info about getting rid of it? what spy removal software companies go, "You'll love that privacy invading spyware installed on your PC, and those key loggers... buy our product"....Hell no they lay it on you that spyware is serious, and you believe that because you're in a forum about IT! It's not about scaring you, it is about giving you reality.. and if you get scared, then I suppose that's your problem you need to deal with. But myself, knowledge doesn't fear me. Any product that has to do with getting rid of something bad for your PC or you will sound "scary" but don't worry the bad guys wont get you. lol.



-Hydroponic Garden

Edited by Hydroponic Garden, 21 September 2004 - 08:56 PM.

[Bobbi Flekman]

Scare Tatics? Isn't that why you're here obsessing about spyware.... and getting info about getting rid of it? what spy removal software companies go, "You'll love that privacy invading spyware installed on your PC, and those key loggers... buy our product"....Hell no they lay it on you that spyware is serious, and you believe that because you're in a forum about IT! It's not about scaring you, it is about giving you reality.. and if you get scared, then I suppose that's your problem you need to deal with. But myself, knowledge doesn't fear me. Any product that has to do with getting rid of something bad for your PC or you will sound "scary" but don't worry the bad guys wont get you. lol.



-Hydroponic Garden

There are no scare tactics here. A site that states "Do you know how many people are watching you?" That is scare tactics! That said I don't see any scare tactics on the site.

There is a difference between telling the truth and using scare tactics. Scare tactics are used to coerce someone into buying the product. Telling the truth is just that, and letting the prospective buyer make up his/her own mind.

By the way, the reason that we are here is that we offer help to people who have become a victim of malware. We're not obsessing over it, as you kindly put it.

[Gwyrox732]

There are no scare tactics here.

Oh, I disagree. I can tell there are scare tactics just from that first post:

You are being watched! ISPs are monitoring your behavior. Other users of your computer are snooping through your surfing history. Companies are stealing your personal information and using it to create a profile of you. Hackers can watch everything that leaves your computer.

That's a little bit too dramatized for my taste. Then, of course, the selling line:

Only one software title can defend you from all of these violations of your personal information - GhostSurf Pro.

You're telling me that this isn't trying to scare users into buying GhostSurft Pro? It's not saying "Hey, you know what? There's this stuff called spyware; it isn't very good. There are a bunch of programs to stop it, here's one: GhostSurf Pro" they are saying "OMGZ!!111!!1 T3h compaies are trying to steal your identity!!1!!!!!11 You have to get GhostSurf Pro to protect youself! Nothing there is no one else that can help you!"

[Bobbi Flekman]

There are no scare tactics here.

Oh, I disagree. I can tell there are scare tactics just from that first post:

I meant that SWI doesn't use scare tactics. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

[Hydroponic Garden]

Scare Tatics? Isn't that why you're here obsessing about spyware.... and getting info about getting rid of it? what spy removal software companies go, "You'll love that privacy invading spyware installed on your PC, and those key loggers... buy our product"....Hell no they lay it on you that spyware is serious, and you believe that because you're in a forum about IT! It's not about scaring you, it is about giving you reality.. and if you get scared, then I suppose that's your problem you need to deal with. But myself, knowledge doesn't fear me. Any product that has to do with getting rid of something bad for your PC or you will sound "scary" but don't worry the bad guys wont get you. lol.



-Hydroponic Garden

There are no scare tactics here. A site that states "Do you know how many people are watching you?" That is scare tactics! That said I don't see any scare tactics on the site.

There is a difference between telling the truth and using scare tactics. Scare tactics are used to coerce someone into buying the product. Telling the truth is just that, and letting the prospective buyer make up his/her own mind.

By the way, the reason that we are here is that we offer help to people who have become a victim of malware. We're not obsessing over it, as you kindly put it.

Sorry I was a bit harsh in saying obsessing... I didn't mean it but come on, like you said, "scare tatics?"


-Hydroponic Garden

[Hydroponic Garden]

Also to....

You're telling me that they are trying to scare users into buying GhostSurft Pro? It's not saying "Hey, you know what? There's this stuff called spyware; it isn't very good. There are a bunch of programs to stop it, here's one: GhostSurf Pro" they are saying "OMGZ!!111!!1 T3h compaies are trying to steal your identity!!1!!!!!11 You have to get GhostSurf Pro to protect youself! Nothing there is no one else that can help you!"

What site, NAME ONE, that is selling a spyware product just says, "Hey, guess what... you know that spyware stuff, well it's not very good" LMAO, where the hell are you the wizard of oz? And guess what, Ghost Surf is more than just a "spyware remover". And I never said this site uses scare tatics, it may be somewhat scary to some people considering the threats..... but I find it knowledge... and beleive it or not but Ghost Surf Pro is addressing REALITIES, ISPS track EVERYWHERE YOU GO.... mainly to send to advertisments, and to give info to third parties about your surfing habits.... and websites you visit can see your IP address and everything about your PC. Don't Believe me.....

visit www.privacy.net


-Hydroponic Garden

Edited by Hydroponic Garden, 22 September 2004 - 06:22 AM.

[Gwyrox732]

Well, they don't say EXACTLY that, but they also don't say "There is only one product that can help you, ours!"

Also, it's only obvious websites can see your IP, if you are trying to do something bad, they can report your IP to your ISP, etc, etc. However, saying "...and everything about your PC" is a little much. They don't know that I have a file named App1.pdb in C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\Visual Studio Projects\App1\bin.

I'm not saying this particular companies tactics are the worst. If you want to see REAL scare tactics go here and refresh a few times. I hope you don't consider THAT "addressing REALITIES". Also see here. If you consider that just "addressing REALITIES"

If you want to see "addressing REALITIES" here is a snippet from the lavasoft homepage:

Most people are familiar with freeware, shareware, cookies, media players, interactive content, and file sharing. What they may not realize is that some of the aforementioned may contain code or components that allow the developers of these applications and tools to actually collect and disseminate information about those using them.
They can track your surfing habits, abuse your Internet connection by sending this data to a third party, profile your shopping preferences, hijack your browser start page or pages, alter important system files, and can do this without your knowledge or permission. The security and privacy implications of these exploits should be quite obvious and undesirable on any system or network!
Lavasoft is the industry leader and most respected provider of anti Trackware solutions. We have developed several applications that will provide you with the means to keep your computer or network free of these compromising and intrusive threats to your privacy.

That is saying "hey, there's this stuff called adware that can do bad things to your computer. lots of people think out product is pretty good at helping you, why don't you check us out?"

Also, I don't know what ISP you use, but mine definitley doesn't send me adverts aimed directly at me after analyzing my surfing habits. And what third-party are they saying to "hey, this guy, he's about 17 and likes to look at anti-spyware sites. why don't you send him some spam? now where's my money?"? really, I'm curious.

[Burner]

Let me start of, anonymous surfing is impossible. Don't know why so many people make the mistake of thinking they can be anonymous. The nearest you can come to being anonymous is to use a simple proxy server which can also be bypassed again.

Scare Tactics? Doyou know that you have a bigger chance of another family member installing keyloggers or something alike on your computer than rippers.

Best thing is just not to care. You can't stop them from stealing any information is they are good enough. You can only choose not to give out the information to fast.

Don't buy things from scamp looking websites.

Sincerely,
Burner

[cnm]

I'm new here so I've yet to read all the products others have mentioned, but a product called Ghost Surf Pro which I use must be taken a look at for those who find privacy on the net an issue.

A very nice anonymizer I found is Anonymous Browsing Toolbar.
http://www.amplusnet...owsing/help.asp
Very easy to use, free trial for 40 uses, $9.95 to buy.

[Zero]

http://www.steganos.com/

Great IP masker.

[cyberscan]

I use a better product that is free. It is called Linux :-)

[Zero]

I use a better product that is free.  It is called Linux :-)

what distro?

[JethroBodine]

I believe there are two competing products to GhostSurf Pro:

Proximitron (freeware as I recall), and
Steganos (not free, ~ $30 I'll guess).

I also notice that very recently GhostSurf has a new version, GhostSurf 2004, and it sells for ~$30 US st Sams, Costco and others.

I'm interested is anyone's opinions on how these three apps. compare for anonymous surfing.

I'm new here so I've yet to read all the products others have mentioned, but a product called Ghost Surf Pro which I use must be taken a look at for those who find privacy on the net an issue.
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-Hydroponic Garden

[betaman183]

i love it... people scared to death because of what they look up on the net... first off, anything on a normal website is legal, any porn of any sort is legal if you can go to www.somepornsite.com they cant put it up if it isn't... now if you download some or newsgroups, irc channeles, p2p etc... then maybe it can be illegal, but most likely you isp wont jump up and say.. hay, this 1 ip looks bad lets read his logs... you have a 2% chance of it hppeneing... so basically if what u normally do is legal dont worry about nothing and dont spend alot of money on some stupid piece of software....

[Paranoid]

No annoymizer is perfect. But the following free ones are open source and free. You will take a hit on surfing speed of course.

http://tor.eff.org/
http://anon.inf.tu-d...e/index_en.html

[Steven V.S. Cat]

I use this one,
[edited out spam link -screen317]
It uses VPN solution.
It encrypts all your outgoing traffic and make you surf Internet anonymously. They are free, but their speed is not fast...

[Budfred]

I use this one,
[edited out spam link -screen317]
It uses VPN solution.
It encrypts all your outgoing traffic and make you surf Internet anonymously. They are free, but their speed is not fast...

Out of 2 posts, this is the second time you have promoted this product... Do you have a stake in this product?? If you are attempting to SPAM it, please be aware that we do NOT tolerate that here...

[vpnds]

* Unique Personal (us-de) IP
* Unlimited amount of transfer
* 1 GBit speed
* 128bit channel encryption
* Easy setup Connection
* Full anonymity
* Live messenger Support
* No extra Software required


It is a very good and advanced service for ALL people who wants more security and speed on the NET!

[edited out spam link -screen317] is your solution

[Indrid_Cold]

GetInvolved
I edited your post. You had best check yourself or you and I will have us a little sit down if I have to edit another!

[Budfred]

* Unique Personal (us-de) IP
* Unlimited amount of transfer
* 1 GBit speed
* 128bit channel encryption
* Easy setup Connection
* Full anonymity
* Live messenger Support
* No extra Software required


It is a very good and advanced service for ALL people who wants more security and speed on the NET!

.VPNds.com" is your solution

As usual... People who are new to the forum who post what are essentially ads for programs are NOT endorsed by SWI and need to be viewed as risky to access and use... We have had a number of people post links to malware and we do not check each program that someone posts about to make sure it is not dangerous... Visit the site or use the program at your own risk...

[frisco]

I use [edited out spam link -screen317] for anonymous surfing. It really suites one's needs when you're keeping your privacy

[cnm]

Not a free program.

[Budfred]

And the person posting it is listed as a SPAMmer by StopForumSpam...

[illumination]

I would like to add two cents to this topic if i may..  The companies claiming to give you your privacy back have access to all of your info once installed or used, what is to keep them from doing the very thing your using the product for? How much trust can you blindly place into these companies?

 

I have always viewed the internet much like going out of the house into public. I would not walk out of my door nude and expect people not to notice. The equivalent on the internet is in what you divulge.

Edited by illumination, 13 November 2014 - 06:34 AM.