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#1 LostAccount

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Posted 26 December 2004 - 09:49 PM

I'm sure most of you have heard about the earthquake near Sumatra, Indonesia yesterday. The earthquake waves(measured 8.5 on the Richter scale, making it the 5th worst earthquake since 1900) only hurt people in the nearby province of Aceh. However the tsunamis created by it hit Phuket, Southern India, Sri Lanka, the Maldives and Malaysia, killing over 10000 people. Since it was during the Christmas Season, many tourists had also come to celebrate Christmas on the islands I just mentioned.

Many more have not been found. Let's just hope they are still alive.

This is a link to the news articles about the earthquake:

http://news.google.c...g=d&sa=N&tab=wn

Edited by LostAccount, 26 December 2004 - 09:52 PM.

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Posted 27 December 2004 - 02:49 AM

The number of people killed has risen to nearly 15000. Pray that there aren't any more.
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Posted 27 December 2004 - 08:47 AM

It has been upgraded to a 9.0 earthquake, which (I believe) would place it in the top four earthquakes of the last century. The death toll has also been revised to an estimated 21,000 dead (primarily tsunami related).

Edited by Trilobite, 27 December 2004 - 08:49 AM.


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Posted 27 December 2004 - 11:19 AM

Yes, I believe that the death toll would soon reach 25,000 people. :gasp:

The only earthquakes I know which are worse in the last century are the 1964 Alaskan and the 1960 Chilean earthquakes.

Tsunamis are very rare at the areas affected although there are occasional earthquakes. It was a very horrid shock for us living here in South-East Asia.

I do wonder why nobody could sense this very strong earthquake before hand.
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Posted 27 December 2004 - 11:37 AM

This was the worst disaster I have come to know about in my life. My sympathies to the victims and their families.
The thing that surprises me is that the tsunamis hit first on the land 3 hours after the quake, the warnings should have been up when the news of the Earthquake came. But as it was underwater, I guess nobody even felt it before the waves arrived.

Just to add for knowledge LostAccount, I am adding the list of worst ever Earthquakes and tsunami according to deaths caused by them.

The worst earthquake in recorded history happened in the Middle East along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea in the year 1201. The writings, scripts and other records found show a death toll of 1 million :( .
Another one in China January 23,1556. It caused 830,000 deaths.

The most destructive earthquake of the 1900s was the one that struck China in 1976, causing 255,000 deaths (official), where estimated death toll was was as high as 655,000 .

The worst in my country was that struck Quetta in 1935, the once famous architecture wonder was swallowed by the mountains. The new town with the same name exists now and is one of the larger cities.

The most number of deaths caused by a tsunami is 100,000 people. This tsunami struck Awa, Japan in 1703.

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Posted 27 December 2004 - 05:12 PM

Tsunamis can happen in just about any coastal or ocean island area. Two of the most common causes of tsunamis are large sub-marine slides and sudden seismic movements beneath the ocean floor or in coastal/island areas. In this instance, it was a rather shallow (6 miles depth) earthquake along a subduction zone.

Tsunamis retain their power and intensity longer than earthquakes do as they travel out from their origin and can impact in areas where the initiating earthquake is not even felt. As Helperatwork mentioned, tsunamis traversing deep water are not likely to be detected by something like a ship on the surface, above the wave. As the wave approaches shallower water, the wave is forced upwards above the ocean surface creating the “wall of water” that is often described. As the tsunami approaches shore, the ocean waters actually recede away from shore before the wave hits. Unfortunately, this is often how some people are killed. They get curious about the receding water and they come down to shore, right into the path of the wave.

I do wonder why nobody could sense this very strong earthquake before hand. 

The prediction of earthquakes is still an evolving science. It is not quite at the level of, for instance, meteorology but perhaps more along the lines of tornado prediction. There may be indicators of a potential earthquake within the next five years and a quake may not occur for the next 20 years. Similarly, there might be little indication of an impending earthquake before one occurs.

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Posted 27 December 2004 - 11:08 PM

Tsunami alert centre unable to help
From correspondents in Los Angeles
December 28, 2004

AN alert centre in Hawaii that warns Pacific countries about approaching tsunamis detected the earthquake that generated killer waves across Asia, but had no way of raising the alarm.

The absence of an alert system in Asia meant the information could not be sent out fast enough to save any of the more than 23,000 lives that were lost in the catastrophe.

“We did what we could to warn Asian nations of the likelihood of a tsunami,” said Charles McCreery of the Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre in Honolulu, adding that the centre did not have direct contacts with Indian Ocean nations.

The centre, set up by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in 1949 after a huge wave killed 159 people in Hawaii, tried desperately to warn Asian nations through US embassies in their capitals.

“From our instruments we can detect any large earthquake in the Pacific, usually within two to three minutes of the occurrence of the earthquake, and warn any country that is threatened,” he said.






The centre issued a bulletin at 0114 GMT when it detected the temblor off the coast of Indonesia, but with no early warning system in place in Asia, scientists had no choice but to begin working their phones.

“We knew that the whole coast of Sumatra was capable of large, damaging earthquakes and large tsunamis,” said US Geological Survey geophysicist Ken Hudnut.

“There was sufficient time between the time of the quake and the time of the tsunamis hitting some of the affected areas to have saved many lives, if a proper warning system had been in place,” he told AFP.

The NOAA's information bulletin said there was a possibility of a tsunami near the earthquake's epicentre, but that no destructive threat existed in the Pacific.

But huge tidal waves swept across the Indian Ocean killing at least 23,000 people in nine countries from Indonesia to Somalia.

The tsunami is believed to be the first in the Indian Ocean since 1883, possibly explaining why coastal inhabitants of the region were so unprepared for the disaster.

“Because they are such a rare occurrence, perhaps the tradition of warning about the hazards of tsunamis is no longer handed down from generation to generation,” Hudnut said.

Records dating back to 1509 show that Indian Ocean tsunamis have never hit more than one place at one time, Eddie Bernard , director of the Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory in Seattle, Washington, told The Wall Street Journal.

“There do not seem to be any tsunamis that were Indian Ocean-wide,” Bernard said.

There are almost no tsunami alert systems for the Indian Ocean to give populations sufficient time to flee the deadly waves, the NOAA said.

The International Tsunami Information Centre was created in 1965 as part of UNESCO, the UN science and education agency, to better prepare Pacific countries against the giant waves.

The United States has a second tsunami-warning centre in Alaska that was established in 1967, following a 1964 earthquake that unleashed a tsunami responsible for 122 deaths.

The US tsunami centres get information from the National Data Buoy Centre, whose network of buoys measure the size of waves.

US earthquake experts say that in an age of booming international travel and tourism, people all over the world should be aware of what to do in the case of a major earthquake that could spawn a tsunami.

“People who spend any time at all -- even vacations -- in coastal communities should know that when there is a major quake they should make their way to high ground as quickly as possible because a tsunami could soon follow,” Hudnut said.

“Being prepared for such calamities is part of being a savvy traveller,” he said.

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So it was actually too late for Hawaii to tell people in our region. Perhaps now the world knows better and will build an alert system for people in South and South-East Asia.
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Posted 30 December 2004 - 04:19 AM

Death toll: 77000
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Posted 30 December 2004 - 09:46 AM

Death toll: 115000
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Posted 30 December 2004 - 10:58 AM

http://www.prh.noaa.gov/ptwc/olderwmsg

Yup . . . very unfortunate. And though those Indian Ocean countries were not formally part of a warning system, NOAA within minuites issued the 'quake location, magnitude, and specifically mentioned the tsuname threat! U would think that at least the gvernments of India and Thialand could have had some paid kids or such to monitor quake activity in their own backyard.

For me, adding the noaa site to my favorites is a done deal and will be checked, along with the weather, sports etc . . . when I travel!!!!!

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Posted 30 December 2004 - 08:31 PM

My cousin is there... I'm hoping for the best :(
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Posted 30 December 2004 - 10:47 PM

I pray that your cousin will be safe and sound. Good luck.
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Posted 30 December 2004 - 10:50 PM

Death toll: Over 125000

Famine, diseases and the direct blow from the tsunami are the main causes.
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Posted 31 December 2004 - 06:26 AM

So why not open your wallets and send the poor b********s some money?

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Posted 31 December 2004 - 08:22 AM

So why not open your wallets and send the poor b********s some money?

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You presume to know some of us have or have not contributed :blink:

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Posted 31 December 2004 - 09:00 AM

I don't presume anything of the kind. If you have, great. If you haven't, that's between you and your conscience, I posted a link to encourage donations, not as a personal criticism of you or anyone else, and I personally think in the light of the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people it should be possible to rise above petty personal concerns.
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Posted 31 December 2004 - 03:45 PM

There are some videos of the tsunami here:
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Posted 01 January 2005 - 11:27 PM

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Posted 02 January 2005 - 02:23 PM

I do not know about other countries but it is a great achievement to think that the British public has donated over £60 million without counting the donation from the Government.
However when you look at the scale of the suffering and the devastation any donation seems a little bit feeble in comparison.
My heart goes out to ALL those affected.

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Posted 02 January 2005 - 03:54 PM

The public in the Netherlands have scraped 9.3 mil so far. Dunno how much the government will give.
On 6 january a few Dutch tv stations will try and raise more money with a special tv night. Anyway thats nothing compared to the UK ppl and the Japanese (500 miljon!!!) :o
USA 350 miljon. Dunno if the money from Japan and USA is from the government or the people.
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#21 LostAccount

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Posted 03 January 2005 - 01:35 AM

Combined, perhaps? So far, the Japanese have donated the most (about 500 million US dollars) followed by the USA which has donated 350 million US dollars.

As a volunteer worker, I feel deeply saddened by their plight. Some of them turned mad instantly when they found out that all their family members had died. I mean, what if you wake up and find that your whole family is dead, you have no house, and no other relatives to rely on (also dead)? And most people affected are relatively poor compared to some of us here. All their possessions are gone. How are they going to live without the rations. I'm sure some people have commited suicide although I have personally not seen it when I was there.

Edited by LostAccount, 03 January 2005 - 01:39 AM.

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#22 helperatwork

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 12:06 AM

http://www.asbestos-...oma.tv/tsunami/

If someone is strong enough to look through this.

Asia XI and World XI are playing a fund raising cricket match as part of relief operations. The money collected wll be send to help the victims of this disaster.
I hope it gets a full audience so as to provide maximum fund for help.
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#23 RubbeR DuckY

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Posted 07 January 2005 - 09:53 PM

My god.. that is the most horrid picture i have ever seen :(. I pray for everyone that is involved with this tsunami.
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#24 SirPeter

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Posted 09 January 2005 - 02:19 PM

112 mil euro's raised by the dutch after an succesfull tv night :)
Not bad for a small country.

Edited by SirPeter, 09 January 2005 - 02:20 PM.

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#25 ErikAlbert

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Posted 10 January 2005 - 08:31 AM

Right SirPeter,
Belgium is also planning a TV show for that purpose. I think it's on 2005.01.14.
Maar we weten niet hoeveel het gaat worden. 't Is ook geen wedstrijd hé.
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