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#1 GeoTeacher

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Posted 28 December 2004 - 05:24 PM

I am still undecided on if I should install SP2 or not.
I use Zone Alarm and I read it will conflict with it.
Obviously if the patch is a must have then I will switch firewalls.

So i was wondering what some of the people with way more computer
knowledge then I have, think.

Should I install it? Is it a must have?

Or

Is it better to do without it. Keeping my Firewall and antivirus updated.

I actually for the first time in a while have my computer and my wife's computer
running at tip top shape. No random error messages. I am fearful if I download it, I will
open up myslef to a bunch of new error messages.

Thanks for your opinions.

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Posted 28 December 2004 - 05:28 PM

You can disable the XP firewall after you install SP 2. I have - I use Kerio firewall.
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#3 lion7718

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Posted 28 December 2004 - 06:18 PM

I have SP2 & ZoneAlarm..no problem here.

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Posted 29 December 2004 - 04:17 PM

Since the post is about Windows XP SP2
I have at this moment Windows 2000 Pro.
My install CD is already three years old and requires alot of Window Updates.

Is it really worth switching to Windows XP Pro SP2 ?
What more can I do with WinXP that isn't possible with Win2000.

For example I don't see the firewall of WinXP as an improvement, I have a firewall already.
I need some kind of motivation to buy WinXP.
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#5 LostAccount

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Posted 29 December 2004 - 10:44 PM

Automatic Updates and The Security Centre and the System Restore feature are the main advantages of XP. This is a list from M$:

1: Automatically keep your PC up-to-date with the latest security enhancements including the Windows Security Center, Windows Firewall, and more to help protect your computer from viruses and worms that can spread through the Internet.

2: Windows XP Professional provides rich, wireless network support, helping you simply and easily connect to wireless networks whether in your home, office, or out on the road.

3: The Encrypting File System, only in Windows XP Professional, provides an additional level of file protection from hackers and data theft by transparently encrypting files with a randomly generated key. If your laptop gets stolen or lost, unauthorized users should not be able to read or view your confidential files.

4: Quickly set up and connect all the computers, printers, devices, and an Internet connection in your home with the all new Network Setup Wizard. Sharing a computer with others has never been easier; quickly access your personal files and accounts without having to close applications or restart the computer.

5: The clean, simple design of Windows XP Professional puts the features you use most often at your fingertips, helping you find them quickly.

6: The Remote Desktop feature found only in Windows XP Professional allows you to remotely access your PC running Windows XP Professional, from another Windows-based PC, so you can work with all of your files and applications while away from your office or home PC.

7: If something goes wrong with your computer, you can easily remove and roll back any system or application changes without losing files and other valuable information.

8: Windows XP Professional is designed to work with Windows Server networks and includes capabilities for both small office networks with up to 10 PCs and Windows Server based networks.

9: Choose from the widest range of software, hardware, and services designed to work together seamlessly including support for many older applications designed for earlier versions of Windows.

I see almost no difference between Windows 2000 and XP since their version and build numbers are almost the same.

On a different note:

However, I cannot update my XP Home PC to SP2. The installation could not be completed and it just restores the SP1 files. Although my computer does not really need XP SP2, I feel that I miss out on the new features.

Edited by LostAccount, 29 December 2004 - 10:50 PM.

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#6 ErikAlbert

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Posted 30 December 2004 - 08:04 AM

LostAccount,
Thanks alot for the information.
When I read all this I don't see any sensational improvement for me and my standalone HOME computer.
I think I'm going to keep Windows 2000 Pro in the year 2005 and wait what MS is going to do about malware (MS bought Giant).

I hope that MS buys them all to create an all-in-one anti-malware software with the largest signature databases ever in the world.
The Malware World needs centralization, not decentralization or competition.
I'm tired of running and maintaining all these little overlapping protection softwares with different signature databases, which has never been a professional solution any way.
I like competition in general, but not in this case and MS has the money to do it.

I don't consider MS as a good solution either, but in a world, where only money counts, it would be the best solution, especially for the typical users, who are the main victims of the actual solutions.

So Bill Gates become a giant in the Malware World too PLEASE !!!
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#7 macaroo

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Posted 31 December 2004 - 11:45 AM

You noticed that MS bought Giant a couple of months after it was widely reported that Bill Gates's personal computer was infected with Spyware!! Let us hope they take the ball and run with it.

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Posted 02 February 2005 - 07:38 PM

GeoTeacher,
I'll add my very inexperienced two cents worth. I have tried to install SP 2 three times, and my computer crashed (WinXP would not load) three times. I even used the CD version that MS sent to me. After WinXP "crashed", I could not even bring it back with my system recovery discs - I had to buy a new XP to reinstall. :angry:

From what I've read, I'm the exception, but I won't be loading SP2 onto my comp. again for a long time. :hmmm:
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Posted 09 February 2005 - 02:58 AM

ME neither, but i have to this April.

I will not be "protected" by my SP2 blocking software this April. And then, I will image my HDD and install XP Sp2.
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Posted 10 February 2005 - 01:37 PM

In my dealings with the install of XP's Service Pack 2, after several attempts to install on a machine that had a BAD CWS infection, I found that registry permissions had been modified on several keys in the HK_CLASSES_ROOT had been set to read only (such as keys for Wordpad). By checking the setupapi logs left behind from SP2 setup, you can determine which keys are failing or what is causing SP2 to not install.

In my case, it was my belief that somehow, the keys had been set read-only by a malware infestation, since we had to do many things to reclaim wordpad, notepad and other 'internal' applications.

I don't recommend touching the registry for any reason, but if you get a SP-2 and it fails, look for a file called setupapi.log (there is another file created as well that I can't remember the name of). At the end of that setupapi.log file you should see a series of failures that will be why SP2 didn't install.

10 bux says it's a registry permissions problem about 75% of the time --
(not an expert, but 15 years fighting Microsoft Products on PC's leads me to have 'battle experience'). :cool:

In my opinion, any service pack is relevant and should be installed as soon as possible. Service Packs = Fixes + Upgrades + Security (even it it takes a security patch for the service pack).

Edited by secret-squirrel, 10 February 2005 - 01:38 PM.





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