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#1 geoneb

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Posted 04 June 2005 - 09:03 PM

When I deleted some adware/spyware last week, I found Flash was missing. Is it associated with adware/spyware? Thanks!

#2 countryboy123

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Posted 04 June 2005 - 09:49 PM

When I deleted some adware/spyware last week, I found Flash was missing. Is it associated with adware/spyware? Thanks!

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Hi,

I am not a authority on the subject of Macromedia flash, but this is what I remember on the subject.I have heard it can be untrustworthy. I remember it keeps some kind of history on you or it can. To avoid possible spyware only install directly from Macromedia.I turned it off/on (I rebooted) with the help of Flash Kill on my Spywareblaster program. (Flash can load like a turtle on 56k dialups, so I had a added incentive, also.)

Hopefully someone can fill in the holes in my memory.( I am looking forward to checking back, myself.)I hope this helped, thou.

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Posted 05 June 2005 - 09:03 AM

Macromedia Flash is not Spyware
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 09:05 PM

Macromedia Flash is not Spyware

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Sorry, Geoneb I guess I was wrong. Thank you MPfeif101 for catching my mistake.

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 10:02 PM

Flash is not spyware at all, it's a small plugin that is used by web browsers to display files in the swf format... It may keep small bits of information (for saving games, etc., just like cookies) but even your web browser does that...

The way people use it make it a possible way of advertising products, therefore, pop-ups and banners may display flash ads, which are quite irritating.

If it was spyware, then it would be terrible, since 90% of web users have Flash Player installed.

Hope this clears things up.
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Posted 07 June 2005 - 07:48 AM

I have still one question ?
Normally I try to install Macromedia Flash via the website of Macromedia.
http://www.macromedi...=ShockwaveFlash
I always download software from the original home page.
Sometimes I forget to install Macromedia Flash before I need it.

When the plug-in isn't installed on my computer, some other websites ask me to download Flash, because the website needs it, but they just give me a yes or no option and I don't even see where they get the plug-in.
Is that safe such a blind downloading of Macromedia Flash ?
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Posted 07 June 2005 - 08:01 AM

I'm not sure I fully understand you; you mean the website will download Flash without your knowledge :huh:
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#8 ErikAlbert

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 08:04 AM

No the website (not Macromedia) asks me to download Macromedia Flash,
and then I have to click Yes, but I don't really see where the website gets the plug-in.
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Posted 07 June 2005 - 09:38 AM

That is an ActiveX control... Flash Player is usually installed via ActiveX in IE. (In Netscape you have to download the installer).

You can be certain that it's from Macromedia if it's a signed ActiveX control (by Verisign) and the Package is made by Macromedia. It should be authentic then.

If you are scared, just install the latest version of Flash Player here.

http://www.macromedi...=ShockwaveFlash
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Posted 07 June 2005 - 09:41 AM

Just in case you're wondering, an ActiveX control may be embedded in any site... in its lines of code it specifies its codebase (where to download the Package).

<object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macr...rsion=6,0,29,0" width="550" height="400" title="Flash 1">
<param name="movie" value="Site%20flash%201.swf">
<param name="quality" value="high">
<embed src="Site%20flash%201.swf" quality="high" pluginspage="http://www.macromedi...getflashplayer" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="550" height="400"></embed>
</object>

Edited by LostAccount, 07 June 2005 - 10:11 AM.

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 09:57 AM

LostAccount,
Thanks for all your info and certainly for your time..
I'm going to pay more attention on Flash, when I'm visiting websites.
I could be wrong about my question, but I have a pretty good memory.
If I ever see something weird concerning Flash, I will tell you about it.
Until then, I'm most satisfied with your explanation.
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Posted 17 September 2005 - 04:17 PM

Dear ErikAlbert, :D

You have me bewildered. Why if you have a clean download from a genuine site would you delete it (Flash) after you have used it? :scratchhead:

Most people would keep it on file so that the next time you wish to download, you just do so, and Macromedia Flash will display your required download immediately, very much like MS Word will do if you receive a document in that format. :rant:

I am not trying to criticise, it just seems a strange, and assumably you must have a valid reason for doing this? :wave:

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Posted 17 September 2005 - 11:29 PM

Assuming that he means that his version of Flash Player is outdated and that a website requires a newer version for some additional features (e.g. Flash Video works best in Flash Player 8). In the source code it will tell you what version in needs (e.g. codebase="http://download.macr...ersion=8,0,0,0" means you need version 8.0.0.0). If the plugin is not up-to-date, the browser will download the control, check that it's signed, prompt you and you can then download the new plugin (in the control). The browser will install it, and you can then play the flash movie. This would cause people to think that they have to reinstall Flash Player when they are just updating it.

I might be wrong about this but I don't think that he would repeatedly uninstall Flash Player for nothing.

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Posted 18 September 2005 - 01:36 AM

While Macromedia Flash is not Spyware, advertisers have been taking advantage what is known as PIE Tracking through the use of Macromedia Flash to deliver unwanted Ads.

This can be disabled by using the Macromedia Flash Settings Manager

Hope this is of some help to you


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Posted 18 September 2005 - 01:46 AM

I believe that what Dragonslore had mentioned was featured in the SWI newsletter.

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 10:23 PM

With the one caveat of Flash, one should never, ever have to install any software to view any website; this translates into always klik "NO" whenever you receive a popup asking to install anything. Get your Flash from the Macromedia site, and ur good to go.

Flash did have a buffer-overflow problem a while back, but they released a patch for it promptly.
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