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#1 spy1

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Posted 10 February 2006 - 01:50 PM

(Read the rest of the article here):

http://www.cnn.com/2...t.ap/index.html

Hopefully this is a little premature - but I wouldn't count on it:

"Senate Republicans, White House strike deal

Thursday, February 9, 2006; Posted: 7:59 p.m. EST (00:59 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A band of Senate Republican holdouts reached agreement Thursday with the White House on changes in the Patriot Act designed to clear the way for passage of anti-terror legislation stalled in a dispute over civil liberties."

What bothers me - a lot - about this is that I fear that all concerned are rushing to pass this without realizing that the 'patriot' act is the keystone of everything else the government is doing or intends to do.

If they do not force the Administration at this point in time to re-do the 'patriot' act correctly (by building in better oversight, forcing strict accountability, eliminating the growth of additional powers to the 'patriot' act such as the criminal penalties/ contempt-of-court/felony five-year sentences/$5,000 fines for NSL non-compliance or exposure)because they're all enthused about the NSA stuff and the headlines that is making (and while they actually have the window of opportunity and public support to make that happen) - then it's my firm opinion that ultimately, we will have lost.

Go to http://www.theorator.com/senate.html and call or FAX as many of your Representatives as you can. This is the message I just faxed:

"Do NOT compromise on the 'patriot' act re-authorization

Dear Senator,

I would urgently remind you that at this point in time, you have the best chance you will ever have to make meaningful changes for the better to the 'patriot' act.

Accepting anything other than the previously agreed-to SENATE version of the 'patriot' act re-authorization bill, will do both your country and your constituents a serious dis-service.

The 'patriot' act does NOT need to be enhanced in any way by the addition of new 'powers' - there should by no means be any "civil/criminal" penalties added that would apply to non-compliance with or disclosure of an N.S.L (SEC. 118. VIOLATIONS OF NONDISCLOSURE PROVISIONS OF NATIONAL SECURITY LETTERS.

Section 1510 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:
'(e) Whoever knowingly violates section 2709©(I) of this title, sections 625(d) or 626© of the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15 D.S.C. 1681u(d) or 1681v©, section
I 114(a)(3) or 1114(a)(5)(D) of the Right to Financial Privacy Act (12 D.S.C. 3414(a)(3) or 3414(a)(5)(d), or section 802(b) of the National Security Act of 1947 (50 D.S.C. 436(b) shall be imprisoned for not more than one year, and if the violation is committed with the intent to obstruct an investigation or judicial proceeding, shall be imprisoned for not more than five years.'.

Sections 116, 117 and 118 quite frankly suck insofar as they would totally chill appeals to N.S.L's and effectively cover up any possible ABUSES of N.S.L.'s - WE DO NOT NEED THIS!

Furthermore, including anti-drug legislation in the re-authorization simply sets precedent for replacing both our national and individual STATES Constitutions' with the 'patriot' act - AND THE ANTI-METH LAW SHOULD BE STRICKEN PERIOD.

PLEASE do NOT blow this final opportunity to get the 'patriot' act right! The 'patriot' act is the keystone for all else that the government is doing or plans to do - and only you can keep it from being wrong again! Thank you."
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Posted 10 February 2006 - 05:55 PM

I hadn't considered the states' rights angle before: nice call

I was just wondering if the 'patriot' act had any value to you (IYO)?
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Posted 11 February 2006 - 12:28 AM

http://www.washingto...&referrer=email

"Patriot Act Compromise Clears Way for Senate Vote


By Charles Babington
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 10, 2006; Page A01

Efforts to extend the USA Patriot Act cleared a major hurdle yesterday when the White House and key senators agreed to revisions that are virtually certain to secure Senate passage and likely to win House approval, congressional leaders said.

The law -- passed in the wake of the 2001 terrorist attacks and scheduled to lapse in key areas last year -- makes it easier for federal agents to secretly tap phones, obtain library and bank records, and search the homes of suspected terrorists. Several Democrats said the compromise announced yesterday lacks important civil liberties safeguards, and even the Republican negotiators said they had to yield to the administration on several points.

But with virtually all 55 GOP senators now on board, and Democrats joining them, the plan appears to have enough support to overcome the Senate filibuster that has thwarted a four-year renewal of the statute for months. Senators said they think the White House will be able to coax the Republican-controlled House to agree as well, even though House leaders have complained that senators' demands had weakened the measure.

"It was a bipartisan group of us that really believed we could do better . . . to protect civil liberties even as we gave law enforcement important tools to conduct terrorism investigations," Sen. John E. Sununu (R-N.H.) told reporters. He said that he and his fellow negotiators had to make more concessions to the administration than they wanted to, but that Congress will monitor the law's application over the coming years and perhaps revise it.

Sen. Richard J. Durbin (Ill.), one of several Democrats who agreed to back the compromise yesterday, said "it falls far short" of the bill that was passed by the Senate last year but rejected by the House. "But if you measure it against the original Patriot Act . . . we've made progress" toward "protecting basic civil liberties at a time when we are dealing with the war on terrorism," Durbin said.

Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) called the compromise "a step in the right direction."

The proposal would restrict federal agents' access to library records, one of the Patriot Act's most contentious provisions. A form of secret subpoena known as a National Security Letter could no longer be used to obtain records from libraries that function "in their traditional capacity, including providing basic Internet access," Sununu and others said in a statement. But libraries that are "Internet service providers" would remain subject to the letters, Durbin said.

The Senate proposal would no longer require National Security Letter recipients to tell the FBI the identity of their lawyers.

The compromise bill also addresses "Section 215 subpoenas," which are granted by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court. Recipients of such subpoenas originally were forbidden to tell anyone about the action. The proposed Senate measure would allow them to challenge the "gag order" after one year, rather than the 90-day wait in earlier legislation.

Sununu said the administration insisted on the longer waiting period. "You now have a process to challenge the gag order," he said, defending the concession. "That didn't exist before."

Sununu said he and his allies were disappointed that the compromise does not require agents to "show a connection to a suspected terrorist or spy" before obtaining a Section 215 subpoena. Instead, a FISA judge would have to agree that there are reasonable grounds to believe the items being sought are relevant to an investigation into terrorism.

Several liberals condemned the bill. "I am gravely disappointed in this so-called deal," said Sen. Russell Feingold (D-Wis.). "The White House agreed to only a few minor changes" that "do not address the major problems," he said, adding: "We've come too far and fought too hard to agree to reauthorize the Patriot Act without fixing those problems."

But Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said the Senate compromise "maintains the tools necessary to fight terrorism while further strengthening safeguards to protect civil liberties."

"We are hopeful that the Congress will now move forward to renew the Patriot Act," he said."

If anyone can see this as anything less than an un-mitigated disaster for our privacy, our freedom and our Constitution's continued existence, feel free to point it out to me.

The 'patriot' act is the very linchpin of everything else the government has done and will continue to do - if allowed continued strenghening without concomitant over-sight, accountability and review, it will eat the Constitution and the Bill of Rights alive and permanently destroy the delicate balance between the three Branches of government, relagating the Judicial and Legislative Branches to mere puppets of the Executive Branch.

This is not wild imaginings or paranoia on my part - it's a simple, deadly-to-freedom fact.

So tell me, people - are you all going to sit back and let it happen?

Because if you do, you deserve everything you get.

Have an answer ready for your children and grandchildren about why you allowed this to happen when you could have affected the outcome - you'll need one. Pete
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 09:53 AM

Sen. Feingold will be taking the floor at 11 Eastern. Re-authorization may be voted on today. (C-SPAN2). Pete
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 11:00 AM

Feingold just made perhaps the single most cogent statement extant on what remains wrong with the re-authorization - and he strongly urged the Senate to not even consider bringing the "compromise" to a vote.

If I can get a link to what he just said, I'll post it. Pete
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 11:17 AM

It would be nice if everyone reading this would go here: http://www.theorator.com/senate.html , get the phone number of both of your Senators and call them right now.

All you have to do is tell them (if that's how you feel) that you are totally against the the 'patriot' act "compromise" bill - that you want the 'patriot' act truly fixed.

It could make all the difference. Pete
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 01:53 PM

According to the scroll at the bottom of the C-SPAN channel, Sen. Spector is claiming he has enough votes to over-ride a filibuster by Sen. Feingold on the'patriot' act re-authorization vote.

Have you called yet? Pete
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 02:43 PM

Remember - If you oppose this, then tell your Senator on the phone that you want him/her to vote against H.R. 3199 and S.2271 (it contains the "one year before an appeal of an NSL language).

It is vital to tell them to vote against both.

The opposite of course, if you're in favor of these bills. Pete
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 03:46 PM

You know, if you're not able to be watching this, you're missing a defining moment in American history.

Sen. Sessions got up and defended the re-authorization; Sen. Feingold rebutted, Sen.Leahy stopped just short of calling Bush a criminal (although he did mention - twice - that this Administration is involved in a conscious cover-up of their activities in these areas to prevent American citizens from going nuts about it); an outstanding speech (or most of it) was given by Sen. Byrd.

They're doing yet another "Quorum Call" right now and broadcasting something else - but they'll be back after that.

Watch it all if at all possible - and if you haven't yet called your Senators to express your opinion, then by all means do so. Pete
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 08:10 PM

Feingold Drops Effort to Block Patriot Act

http://news.yahoo.co...o/patriot_act_4

Well, the filibuster attempt is over, but the article says:

"The Senate planned to resume debate Thursday on the legislation; the House planned to act at the end of the month."

In a way, that's good - it gives people more time to contact their legislator's before the final vote in either House.

It's extremely ominous that Feingold still didn't have enough votes to run with the filibuster, though.

Have you called? Pete
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Posted 16 February 2006 - 08:59 AM

They'll be having the vote at 10:30 Eastern (live on C-SPAN2). Pete
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Posted 17 February 2006 - 10:14 AM

For those of you who haven't yet decided whether or not to weigh in on this issue with your legislators, I would like to point you to perhaps the most eloquent argument as to what's wrong with the 'patriot' act as written that I've ever heard.

It was given by Sen. Russ Feingold on the Senate floor on the 15th.

Please read it in its' entirety.

http://feingold.sena...02/2006215.html

We seem to have been given a two-week reprieve before a final vote in the Senate on re-authorization (according to Feingold's statement here:
http://feingold.sena...02/2006216.html ).

I cannot begin to tell you how important it is to contact your Representatives on this issue if you haven't already.

It literally means the difference between a Constitutionally-run, three Branch form of government which protects the rights' of its' citizens - or the absence of that.

Make...your..voice...heard. Pete

COPY AND PASTE THIS POST AND EMAIL IT TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADRESS BOOKS! WE NEED "JUICE" ON THIS! THANK YOU!

Edited by spy1, 17 February 2006 - 12:24 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2006 - 07:51 PM

* Action Alert: End Game for PATRIOT in Senate, Public Loses

Two months ago, a bi-partisan filibuster in the Senate
prevented renewal of the PATRIOT Act without significant new
reforms. We cheered, but not for long. Now, the PATRIOT
supporters have announced a sham "compromise" bill and stand
poised to have it passed.

In the end, the Senate rebellion left the bill barely
changed - only a few token modifications agreed to by the
Administration are included in the new version of the bill.
It looks like these phony modifications will be sufficient
to break the deadlock and extend a dangerously unchecked
PATRIOT Act.

Your senators have one last chance to make a real stand for
your civil liberties. On the Senate floor next week, they
should vote against the "cloture" motion that would end the
debate and against the latest PATRIOT renewal deal. Your
senators should also support amendments proposed by Senators
Feingold, Bingaman, and Leahy that would add new civil
liberties protections and mitigate the worst excesses of
that bill.

Visit our action center now and urge your Senator to vote
against cloture, against the PATRIOT renewal deal, and for
the reform amendments.

Write to your senator now:
http://action.eff.or...Advocacy?id=214

Senator Feingold on what's missing from the latest PATRIOT
bill:
http://www.feingold....2/20060210.html

More info at EFF's PATRIOT pages:
http://www.eff.org/patriot/

____________________________________________________________

That's my latest EFFector 19.08 Action Alert, folks.

I'm hoping that by now, you know that just writing or emailing or calling once is not enough (our Legislator's forget, they get distracted, they lose focus because of all that's going on).

We need to remind them again.

I'm also hoping that by now, you've realized that the 'patriot' act is the ten percent of the iceberg that you can see (it's out there in the open if you'll take the time to read the re-authorization provisions and see how sadly lacking in protections it is as currently written for the average, innocent, legitimate American citizen).

It's flying the flag for what's happening to us in America, although it's the 90% that's below the surface of the 'patriot' act that will destroy our national identity as a "free" country (the torture, the wiretapping, the data-mining, the complete, sneering dis-regard for the wishes of the people of this nation who pay for it all, with their money and their blood).

This upcoming 'patriot' act re-authorization ( and God damn them forever for perverting the meaning of that word ) is positively, absolutely our last ever chance - without bloodshed - of drawing a line in the sand and saying to both this and future Administrations "This you shall NOT cross".

Are you emailing a link to this thread to everyone in your address book? Urging them to call and write?

Are you posting about it in all forums that you frequent that are not covering it? Urging the same?

As the 'patriot' re-authorization goes, so goes the country.

Without the victory of making that come out right, we haven't a prayer of making any of the rest of it come out right.

If you haven't acted yourself, use some of the links in this thread to do so. If you have, use them again.

If you haven't been "spreading the word", you have approximately 72 hrs. to do so in time to make a difference.

Are their enough true American PATRIOTS left to turn this around?

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 will tell. Pete
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 12:41 PM

This is a copy of the FAX that I just sent to both my Senators' and all of my Representatives..

If you feel the same way I do about this, I urge you to use these links:

http://www.theorator.com/senate.html

http://www.theorator...ment/house.html to either phone, fax or email the same message to them today - the re-authorization vote happens tomorrow.

____________________________________________________________

HOW CAN YOU ALLOW THE “PATRIOT” ACT TO GO THROUGH AS IS?

YOU KNOW THAT THE LATEST “CONCESSIONS”/AMENDMENTS TO THE

CONFERENCE REPORT ARE NOTHING BUT WINDOW-DRESSING!

THEY PROVIDE NO REAL PROTECTION FOR THE LEGITIMATE, INNOCENT

AMERICAN CITIZEN FROM UN-WARRANTED GOVERNMENT SNOOPING INTO

THEIR LIVES - NOR DO THEY PROVIDE ANY PROTECTION AGAINST ABUSE OF

THOSE POWERS!

HOW CAN YOUR CONSCIENCE ALLOW YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS

UN-MITIGATED PIECE OF GARBAGE?

YOU SHOULD VOTE AGAINST THE RE-AUTHORIZATION AS-WRITTEN –

AND INSIST THAT THE AMENDMENTS PROPOSED BY SEN. FEINGOLD BE ADDED

AND PASSED INTO THE RE-AUTHORIZATION!

WE WILL NEVER BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO “FIX” THIS AGAIN!

THINK!

(Signed)

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 11:04 AM

(Read the rest of the article here: http://www.cnn.com/2...t.ap/index.html )

Sen. Byrd regrets vote for Patriot Act

""The original Patriot Act is a case study in the perils of speed, herd instinct and lack of vigilance when it comes to legislating in times of crisis," the West Virginia Democrat said Monday. "The Congress was stampeded, and the values of freedom, justice and equality received a trampling in the headlong rush."

This week as he embarks on a re-election campaign for a record ninth term, Byrd, 88, will vote "no" on renewing 16 major provisions of the act due to expire March 10. He argues that even with new privacy protections added this year by the Bush administration and its allies, the law has given the government too much power to pry.

"This new proposal would erase too many of our freedoms guaranteed to the American people," Byrd added in a statement to The Associated Press. "In essence, this legislation says that the Bill of Rights is right no more.""
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 01:21 PM

(Read the rest of the article here:
http://www.boston.co...ogram_in_works/ )

"Deal on spy program in works
Bill would let court approve wiretaps

WASHINGTON -- Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, a leading Republican critic of President Bush's domestic spying program, has drafted a bill that would exempt the once-secret surveillance program from a 1978 statute that requires warrants.

The draft bill, which will be aired today at a Judiciary Committee hearing, would require Bush to submit the classified details of the spying program to a special national security court for review. The court would decide whether the program violates the constitutional prohibitions on unreasonable searches."

Unless they're talking about the F.I.S.A court here - and maybe even if they are - things are rapidly going from bad to worse on the "wiretapping" issue.

There's still time to call your legislator's and DEMAND that they add Feingold's amendments to the re-authorization before passing it.

If we don't get control of the 'patriot' act, we won't get any kind of control on anything!

More debate is coming on on C-SPAN2 starting at 2:30 p.m. Eastern. If at all possible- watch it! Pete
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 12:35 AM

(Read the rest of the article here:
http://www.cnn.com/2...t.ap/index.html ):

Patriot Act renewal clears Senate hurdle

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- After months of delay in a midterm election year, the USA Patriot Act renewal cleared a final hurdle in the Senate Tuesday on its way to President Bush's desk.

But the bill's sponsor said he is unsatisfied with the measure's privacy protections and far from done tinkering with the centerpiece of Bush's war on terrorism.

"The issue is not concluded," said Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican. He said he plans more legislation and hearings on restoring House-rejected curbs on government power.

The Senate voted 69-30 Tuesday -- 60 votes were needed -- to limit debate and bring the bill to a final vote that could occur as early as Wednesday. The House then would vote and send the legislation to the White House. Sixteen major provisions would expire March 10 if President Bush doesn't sign the bill by then.

Sen. Daniel Inouye, a Hawaii Democrat, did not vote."

Even more distressing was this quote: "Several Democrats voted "no" on the test vote Tuesday to protest the GOP majority's refusal to allow amendments, but said they would vote for the bill on final passage."

So we'll see what the rest of the week brings.

IMO, it's by no means over yet - contacting your Senator tomorrow could still make a difference - and following that, if necessary, contacting or re-contacting your Representative could still make a difference.

You might even be able to get them to vote no - not just to show their displeasure at being left out of the loop and being made powerless by the Executive Branch - but because that's what you (as the one with the long memory of a good registered voter) want them to do.

It actually makes the message you have to get across to them simpler:

vote "NO" on the conference report as-written - or else. Pete
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 09:15 AM

Want to find out how your Senators' voted on the cloture motion for S.2271?

Go here: http://www.senate.go...on=2&vote=00023


They're doing the role-call vote for S.2271 as I post this.

(Thanks JT for the link).

Pete

S.2271 just passed by a vote of 81 to 18. The Senate vote on the re-authorization itself takes place this afternoon. Pete

Edited by spy1, 01 March 2006 - 09:51 AM.

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 03:16 PM

They're doing a quorum call right now on C-SPAN2, but when they return, Se. Feingold will be taking the floor to talk about the re-authorization vote (Sen. Leahy just got through speaking about the same issue - pretty eloquently, but even more so truthfully).

If you wish to watch this train-wreck happen, tune in and stay tuned to C-SPAN2. Pete
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 05:54 PM

No one even has the stones to give Feingold a 15-minute debate on the re-authorization.

This entire affair has turned into a disgrace to our nation and a death-knell for freedom and Constitutionally-derived government.

It's also made a mockery of both the Senate's 'power' to do anything about this and thrown their role of proposing amendments straight out the window.

I just got off the phone (had to leave messages, but that works in this situation) - I called both of my Senator's, told them I was totally dis-satisfied with the conference report as-written - that I wanted them to vote NO on the re-authorization - and that I'd be watching how they voted on it this week so that I'd know how to vote when they come up for re-election.

I firmly suggest that each and every one of you do the same. Use the "Orator" links I've given all-over-the-place to find and call their Washington number. Pete

Edited by spy1, 01 March 2006 - 05:55 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 07:45 AM

This CNN article underscores what I've been trying to tell you all along. (And, no, I'm not trying to "bump" this thread - I just got up and read this).

(From this article: http://www.cnn.com/2...t.ap/index.html )

"The overwhelming support for the renewal package holds great political value for Bush, who in 2001 made the act the centerpiece of what has become a troubled war on terrorism. Underscoring its import are GOP plans already in the works to make sure nobody misses the point this midterm election year.

After the House gives its blessing, Republicans are hoping to win a second day of coverage next Wednesday with a press conference by Speaker Dennis Hastert of Illinois and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee.

The package will receive a made-for-television enrollment -- usually a routine administrative procedure in which a bill approved in both houses is prepared for the president's signature."

___________________________________________________________

So, what will be accomplished here if we don't manage to change it by a massive telephone-call campaign is twofold -

(1) The President will trumpet this victory from the housetops as his supposed "proof" that the American people back him on this kind of dirty politics and these kinds of Constitution-destroying "anti-terrorism" measures.

(2) Using that proof of "approval", he instantly lets himself and his Administration off the hook for everything - the NSA wiretapping issue will vanish as though it had never happened (don't look for any "inquiries" of any type about it, IOW) and, when the beans get spilled (if they do) about all the other programs that're going on that we haven't learned about fully yet, nothing will be done about them, either. (You can also look for "whistleblowers" to become an extinct species; for someone to pay heavily for exposing the NSA wire-tapping scandal; and for a return of a politely-worded Alien and Sedition Act).

This 'patriot' act vote was the key all along - and the 'patriot' act itself is the keystone/showcase for our future government-controlled, total-surveillance, "you have a file" society.

If we allow it to happen, we'll have no one but ourselves to blame. Pete

Edited by spy1, 02 March 2006 - 08:05 AM.

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:57 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2...t.ap/index.html

Patriot Act compromise passes Senate, awaits House vote

Thursday, March 2, 2006; Posted: 4:46 p.m. EST (21:46 GMT)

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Senate on Thursday voted overwhelmingly to renew the USA Patriot Act, after months of pitched debate over legislation that supporters said struck a better balance between privacy rights and the government's power to hunt down terrorists.

The 89-10 vote..."

All done, people.

My heartfelt thanks to all who responded.

Returning you to your regularly-scheduled programming.

It would be both cruel and useless to do otherwise. Pete
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http://news.yahoo.co...zkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Congress Renews Patriot Act; Bush to Sign

"The vote was 280-138, just two more than needed under special rules that required a two-thirds majority. The close vote caught senior Republican aides in both chambers by surprise."
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
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