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#1 countryboy123

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 04:22 PM

I have seen the loss of Outpost Free, Kerio personal firewall and Sygate personal firewall. I wondered if any of the community knew of a viable open source firewall, for Windows. I would like to see a very large user review history that is critically honest of both its strong points and its flaws.

I remember reading that the generally thinking a few years ago was a open source firewall would end up hacked. Linux has several firewalls as I understand. People keep saying that since the building of a Linux variation constantly changes as it is developed , a Linux hacker would be constantly updating his program to keep up. I believe a firewall hacker would have the same problem. I think a windows open source firewall that proved its self to the community would clean up right now. They make their money in help and support as I understand it.

I have surfed around and found a few open source firewalls, none have a big following. Any links or advice would be appreciated and thanks in advance.

#2 Sawyer

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Posted 25 June 2006 - 12:46 AM

Have you looked at Filseclab? It is open source
http://www.filseclab...ts/firewall.htm

#3 steve_da_b

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 01:41 AM

Have you looked at Filseclab? It is open source
http://www.filseclab...ts/firewall.htm


I'm not sure it really counts as Open Source -- the source code is available for your own personal use, with the following license agreement, which is not quite the usual open source license: http://www.filseclab.../sourcetech.htm

There is a project on SourceForge, at the planning stage, to take over from Kerio: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kerio

Otherwise, these three look the most popular/most active, has anyone any experience of them?

http://sourceforge.net/projects/wipfw
http://sourceforge.n...ts/firewallpapi
http://sourceforge.net/projects/tdifw

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 05:19 PM

Though I have tried FileSecLab's product before in an attempt at evaluation, I tried it again since seeing this thread. Today during an AdAware scan, it flagged one of the files installed by this personal firewall as a piece of malware, WinAd. The file itself was filvdsk.vxd. FWIW....
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#5 countryboy123

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Posted 18 November 2006 - 09:26 PM

I found some talk about Coreforce firewall. It is licensed with Apache 2.0 instead of open source.
Here is the link http://force.coresecurity.com/ . It is in beta and it seems to have problems uninstalling at least from what the forums imply. It is made for Windows 2000 and XP.

Just so I am perfectly clear, Coreforce is currently(Nov 2006) in beta. Until it goes out of beta, we probably should not use it or expect software problems if we do.

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The last I knew the kerioklone was dead according to dslreports forum. The other programs on SourceForge the last I knew would not work on Windows. An I did not know about the spyware on Filseclab, but I felt umcomfortable about it for some reason. Thanks for your help one and all. Please keep it up.

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Posted 18 November 2006 - 10:02 PM

Some reading here:

http://www.firewalll...ts_overview.php

http://www.firewalll...on_overview.php

I use Jetico on my machines and I use a SmoothWall also. Kerio and Outpost still have free versions available.

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#7 countryboy123

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 11:07 AM

Some reading here:

http://www.firewalll...ts_overview.php

http://www.firewalll...on_overview.php

I use Jetico on my machines and I use a SmoothWall also. Kerio and Outpost still have free versions available.



Thanks for the speedy reply.

Their are several reasons I wrote off the popular firewalls for a permanent firewall. Outpost #1 is available I believe to but they do not plan to update it according to their (2005 or 2006) forums. I had a great deal of blue screens on two Mellenium computers to chance it on a XP. The Sunbelt Kerio does not seem to have alot of adjustments. It wants you to set it and forget it, from my reading that is not the best way to operate your firewall. I also have not found alot of documentation to help me fine tune it. ( I have not wrote Sunbelt Kerio completely off, but would like to find a better solution. I will probably keep researching , when I find more time.)

I am currently using the old kerio 2.1.5 with a advanced ruleset I found on dslreports. It seemed to do the work without me making so many mistakes. Here is the link if anyone gets curious http://www.broadband...erio2xdefaultu2

Just so I am complete. I know about ZoneAlarm firewall. I have heard about memory hogging and crashes, but the biggest reason not to use it in my opion was on their forums. They do not have a (2005 the last I checked ) registry cleaning utility like Symantec or BlackIce. You have to manually clean the registry if you want to change firewalls.

I see you run Jetico, have you found a English version of their manual or a good forum. The Google translator was having problems. I read it was similar to Kerio 2.1.5 with a written rule set ,so I will probably need a real good manual or reliable forum. Jetico does not endorse a forum and I have not found one that looked complete.

The last I knew Smoothwall was for Linux based (2004) systems, only. You probably duel boot linux and windows or run it on a separate computer and treat it like a router. Would SmoothWall run on Linspire/Freespire Linux? SmoothWall would have to be set up as a Debian package to load correctly if that helps any. (Please keep the Linux answer simple, I have not actually got into linux yet).

Thanks you for your help.

edited for simple spacing and punction mistakes. Countryboy123

Edited by countryboy123, 19 November 2006 - 11:21 AM.


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Posted 19 November 2006 - 01:39 PM

I've never seen a blue screen of death caused by Ouptost yet, but I've only tried it on XP machines. Sunbelt-Kerio has a beginner mode (set it and forget it) and a more advanced mode.

Unfortunatley I do not have a manual for Jetico or know of a good forum. It does take a little bit of effort to set it up properly but it does work well once it's configured the way you want.

SmoothWall is a Linux distribution that get's installed on a spare PC and acts as a router. It's not a program that's installed on top of an operating system. :) . It's the only thing installed on that PC.

Edited by daveydoom, 25 November 2006 - 08:07 PM.

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#9 countryboy123

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 07:24 PM

I've never seen a blue screen of death caused by Ouptost yet, but I've only tried it on XP machines. Sunbelt-Kerio has a beginner mode (set it and forget it) and a more advanced mode.

Unfortunatley I do not have a manual for Jetico for know of a good forum. It does take a little bit of effort to set it up properly but it does work well once it's configured the way you want.

SmoothWall is a Linux distribution that get's installed on a spare PC and acts as a router. It's not a program that's installed on top of an operating system. :) . It's the only thing installed on that PC.




Thanks for the Outpost tip. Windows Mellinium had a reputation for blue screens. I solved that problems with the jv16 powertools (free at the time) and I used the Registry Mechanic (pay) 3.0 or 4.0 , too. When I unloaded Outpost 1.0 in frustration and moved to Sygate, the blue screens stopped. I just assumed the problems was with Outpost. I have missed the Dns plugin ever since.

Thanks for the rest of the information, too. I am going to quit before I stray off topic more.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 05:26 AM

I've been using Filseclab as well, and gotta say after sqitching from zonealarm to Filseclab, my PC is so much faster, although Filseclab has an ugly interface, its on my top list :)




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